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Don't come looking at Gramama Obama's Bank
lame cherry ^ | Sept 28 2008 | lame cherry

Posted on 04/26/2010 7:19:26 PM PDT by tutstar

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To: tutstar

Yes! Thanks for posting this. I happened upon it last night when I was looking for that Chicago bank Davis used back when and it’s still being being used by the same thugs now. Can’t think of the name but Hussein gave it a big chunk of stimulus dollars. They’re all in this together. Always have been and nothing is being done to stop them because they’ve got half of Congress in on the scam as well. Disgusting.


41 posted on 04/27/2010 8:17:23 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: tuckrdout
Maybe because she has been dead for a year and a half.

See the date - Sept. '08. That's two months before she died in Nov. '08

42 posted on 04/27/2010 8:20:51 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: tutstar

The A.C. doesn’t have baby pics. Or maybe all of the baby pics are of him in a tent in Kenya.


43 posted on 04/27/2010 8:22:59 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: Candor7; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...

If a devious person desired the means to create new Aliases for a variety of shady business dealings (and even covert govt operations), I couldn’t think of a better way than to have a family contact, on the inside of the (International) Banking Industry, to establish Lines of Credit and Bank Accounts under different names. Thus if you are wondering how/why Ann Dunham and Barack Obama likely have SO MANY reported Aliases and SSNs ... well, there you are.

I knew a woman when I was much younger (deceased now and NOT related to the Dunhams) who for DECADES maintained three different SSNs (and I saw all 3 SSN cards) under her maiden name and from both her first & second husbands married names, bilking the State and Federal government for various Welfare, Food Stamps and Assistance programs. As such, she was also able to maintain Checking Accounts in different names as well, as checks were issued by MAIL (sent to various friends & relatives) instead of by Electronic Funds transfer as they are often done today.

It wasn’t until 1972 that Social Security Cards and numbers were issued Centrally; Ann Dunham dumped Obama Jr onto her parents in Hawaii in December 1971. However, even after 1972, there were a multitude of ways to create fake Aliases and get “on the grid” if you wanted to. Just ask an Illegal Alien or Mobster laundering money, even in 2010, and find out how relatively easy it is to obtain a fake ID and establish further credentials from that one fake photo ID. In fact, ALL but ONE of the 9/11 hijackers (Mohamed Atta) used FAKE IDs to gain further credentials with state and local agencies.

Granted, it is slightly more difficult nowadays with computerized and centralized tracking, but back in the 60s through mid-90s, it was about as simple as applying for a Library card today. As the Andy Dufresne character describes (art imitating life) in Shawshank Redemption when describing how he hid the Warden's money, a paper trail can be designed to lead to nowhere ... and no one:

RED: I'm sure you're good, but all that paper leaves a trail. Anybody gets too curious -- FBI, IRS, whatever -- that trail's gonna lead to somebody.

ANDY: Sure it will. But not to me, and certainly not to the warden.

RED: Who then?

ANDY: Peter Stevens.

RED: Who?

ANDY: The silent, silent partner. He's the guilty one, your Honor. The man with the bank accounts. That's where the filtering process starts. They trace it back, all they're gonna find is him.

RED: Yeah, okay, but who the hell is he?

ANDY: A phantom. An apparition. Second cousin to Harvey the Rabbit. I conjured him out of thin air. He doesn't exist... except on paper.

RED: You can't just make a person up.

ANDY: Sure you can, if you know how the system works, and where the cracks are. It's amazing what you can accomplish by mail. Mr. Stevens has a birth certificate, social security card, driver's license. They ever track those accounts, they'll wind up chasing a figment of my imagination.


Ironically, TODAY one of the FIRST places to get “on the grid” to establish a new Alias is by applying for a card at your local neighborhood Library. If the Library Staff requires "proof of residency", a FAKE yet convincing-looking Lease Agreement, letter from a Utility Provider, or CHECKING ACCOUNT information is simple enough to CREATE in a COMPUTER, and thus create an Alias by simply providing a FAKE "proof of residence". Take my word on it — it's VERY EASY.



44 posted on 04/27/2010 9:19:44 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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~~Ping!


45 posted on 04/27/2010 9:41:59 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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Thanks..I read this last night and was a little confused by it all. I don’t question that something nefarious was likely going on, but when I saw an attempt at a ‘Rothschild connection’, I was a little skeptical...mainly because the Rothschild conspiracies are so rampant. Thanks for the ping. If someone could put this in layman’s terms, it would be appreciated.


46 posted on 04/27/2010 9:51:52 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: tutstar; BP2

I read lamecherry all the time. The blog is the one who outted Biden and his son taking care of Obama’s problem with Larry Sinclair. A couple of things that stick out for me when I originally read this.

The Indonesian microfinance land theft was happening but you never heard a word of it in the media. I even searched for anything about it online when the Obama multiple social security numbers came out. The only thing I heard was on talk radio. I believe it was Jim Franklin.

Remember that Geithner’s father was head of Ford foundation when Stanley Ann worked in Indonesia. Where is Geithner now? Raping American and looking ignorant when questioned. Bernanke is Bilderberg’s and he has trillions he does not have to account for. New world order. Another ignoramus looking idiot when questioned. Duh? The two people in charge of the hen house are the biggest criminals this side of Obama.

On Henry Kissinger,I have a speech I found online in 2008 by good ol’ Henry to a foreign summit. In that speech he says (paraphrasing) he see’s no reason for the United states in the future to be the leader in economy. I believe he is a part of this.

“Mrs. Dunham’s choice of employment at Bankho.” Going back to articles you keep in mind just in case they fit in the future and make sense.”The 3 stooges go to Washington.” In that article it suggests Madelyn’s father, Rollo C Payne, knew he was raising a daughter for the cause. His job was to make sure she got the training. Bookkeeping. In the article he leased his land to Rockefeller of Standard oil and worked for Rockefeller. Rockefeller has said he does not care who rules as long as he has all the money. In one book Rockefeller said he would not apologize for wanting a one world governing body.

“INGKA owns an international furniture outlet chain” Remember Mr Stanley Ann Dunham worked for a furniture company? I don’t know if there is a connection but start twilight zone music.


47 posted on 04/27/2010 9:59:53 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Grampa Dave; Liz; george76; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ping and a bump.

BTW, it's Not my bank.
48 posted on 04/27/2010 10:03:49 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: tutstar
"If not let us enter the future of an Obama age, when the term "risky microfinance" starts cropping up. I ask you to think about 1 billion Indonesian, Indian, Bangladeshi, African, ok if we go the full route, number it 2 billion women all in microfinance. Suppose they have on average 1000 dollar loans which would talley 2 trillion dollars, plus the sewing machines, materials, grains etc... all these poor people were sold like the Indian farmers. That would make a 4 trillion dollar profit already from Stanley Ann Dunham's microfinance "helping the poor". Now crash that debt system just like the Obama backers crashed the United States derivative markets to assist him. Imagine forclosing on 2 billion people's 40 acre farms just like the Rothschilds are accomplishing in India."


49 posted on 04/27/2010 10:03:52 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: BP2
Sure you can, if you know how the system works, and where the cracks are. It's amazing what you can accomplish by mail. Mr. Stevens has a birth certificate, social security card, driver's license. They ever track those accounts, they'll wind up chasing a figment of my imagination.

The Dunhams knew how to scam the system and taught little Barry. Gramps didn't have to pay for little Barry's elite private school because he got a scholarship (I suspect that's why papa had to come back to Hawaii). Barry grew up knowing he would never have to lift a finger if he could get others to pay his way.

Atta & Co. knew the system didn't work and counted on the system not bothering to check their paperwork or care when they overstayed their visas. And we still haven't woken up. There are untold numbers with expired visas still here after all these years since 9/11. Ask any illegal alien and he's sure to have three or four different IDs on him.

50 posted on 04/27/2010 10:21:27 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: BP2

Banks, Federal reserve, education, healthcare, what does this sound remind you of? Rollo C Payne leased his land to Rockefeller for Standard oil. Do these articles on Rockefeller tie up any loose ends on Obama’s agenda?

Rome, Rockefeller, the U.S. and Standard Oil

http://www.reformation.org/rockefeller.html


51 posted on 04/27/2010 10:23:46 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: BP2

Did you turn in your cheating acquaintance?


52 posted on 04/27/2010 10:55:11 AM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: OafOfOffice

http://www.augustreview.com/news_commentary/trilateral_commission/chorus_call_for_new_world_order_20090108109/

Trilateral commission, communism. All the people we have spoken about are all in this commission. Along with Rubin.

For a real view of Kissinger ideology heavily entrenched in our political affairs, go to his website.

Obama and his thugs in place, New World Order,Trilateral commission,Bilderberg’s, cap and trade, IMF and United Nations. America as we know will be over if this continues.

The return of the Trilateral undead

It’s not accidental that so many of the original members of the Trilateral Commission, all of whom are now well into their 80’s, have returned to dance in the limelight once again.

TC Members like Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Paul Volker and Brent Scowcroft, for instance.

On January 5, 2009, Henry Kissinger was interviewed by CNBC on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. His voice still raspy and spoken with a thick accent, he responded to a question about President-elect Obama’s first actions as President:

“he can give new impetus to American foreign policy ... I think that his task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period, when really a ‘new world order’ can be created. It’s a great opportunity. It isn’t such a crisis.”

While the rest of the country slips into depression and financial collapse, to Kissinger “it isn’t such a crisis.”

And, of course it isn’t — for him.

Kissinger has been patiently waiting since at least 1973 for his New World Order egg to hatch.

Kissinger earlier praised Obama’s picks for economic recovery, and why not?

Obama picked Trilateral Commission wonder boy Timothy Geithner to be Secretary of the Treasury. The rest of the team are protégés of Robert Rubin, also a Trilateral and former Treasury Secretary under Clinton.

Obama’s top foreign policy advisor has been Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller.
Interestingly, when President-elect Obama delivered a speech in 2008 to hundreds of thousands in Germany, he stated,

Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen — a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.”

The media hailed Obama for his vision of America and the New World Order.


53 posted on 04/27/2010 11:14:42 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: tutstar; OafOfOffice; bgill; butterdezillion; All

It would be interesting to see if there are any Real Estate or Financial transactions/dealings on Public Record between ANY of the Payne's/Dunham’s/Obama’s/Sutoro's/Soetoro's and “Henshaw, Convey & Hamilton” as well as George L. R. Kerr (attorney profile) — who's apparently still alive and practicing law in Hawaii today.

The “Henshaw, Convey & Hamilton” firm, which was located in the First National Bank Building, assisted “Stanley Ann D. Obama” with her 1964 Divorce from Obama SR while he was finishing his degree at Harvard.

Seeing how eyewitness accounts, college transcripts and phone book entries show Ann Obama (with baby Obama) remaining in the Seattle area until as late as early-1963, Ann would likely have needed help to pay for and FIND a competent Hawaii attorney to file for Divorce in January 1964. Most logically, the single-mom would have turned to her own mother, Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham a/k/a Toot, who worked at a Hawaii bank, possibly with or associated with the practice of “Henshaw, Convey & Hamilton” and/or George L. R. Kerr, located in the First National Bank Building for some time after the divorce while Ann was with her new husband, Lolo Soetoro, who went on to be an executive with the American Mobil Corporation.

A quick Google search shows that “Henshaw, Convey & Hamilton” represented various Condo developers in the Honolulu area, including the developer of the "Wilder Tower" in 1968 (shown below). Of note is the Developer, United Hawaiian Investment Corporation Inc (Hawaiian International Finances Inc); its officers and directors are also shown for reference on page 2.

Likely unrelated, the address shown for developer's Treasurer (Wallace Young of 2432 Kalakaua Ave) is just a few miles from the address (6085 Kalakaua Ave) listed on the famed Obama newspaper announcement. Small island, huh?


54 posted on 04/27/2010 11:32:23 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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> Did you turn in your cheating acquaintance?

No, she died more than a decade ago, in her late 60s, alone and penniless.
Regardless, Welfare reforms in ‘95 made it more difficult for her to pull off many of her scams.

I had a former business partner who utilized his 12-year-old son’s unused SSN in the early 80s
to create new Lines of Credit for himself because his own credit was so wrecked. Shameful!

After all these years, seeing the world in all it's horror and splendor, it's still shocking to see
what some people will do ... for money.

55 posted on 04/27/2010 11:45:20 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: penelopesire; BP2; onyx; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; SE Mom; Bahbah; El Gato; Danae; Beckwith
Dearlor .. more and more, it's clear that this is a global coup, which took decades to carefully put in place by very conniving and evil cretins.

~~~

"If people want to know a really small world, behold Bank of Hawaii is now run by a flunky who covered up the original nation rape where Mrs. Dunham worked and the other bank in Hawaii just happened to be purchased by BNP Paribas SA, currently owned by Nadhmi Auchi of Saddam Hussein oil for food bribery to the Clintons and the world socialists, with money laundering, who just happened to be in Chicago buying up Tony Rezko's real estate and shaking hands with Barack Hussein Obama.

Toss in Marc Rich who was the genius behind BCCI funding and Bill Clinton's pardon, and one has the entire banking fraud scheme of the past 30 years now engulfing the world."

~ ~ ~

Look up the name Arnold Nachmanoff.

56 posted on 04/27/2010 12:00:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: BP2

Yep. And, as in the examples you mentioned, it rarely pays off in the long run.


57 posted on 04/27/2010 12:05:43 PM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: BP2
under her maiden name and from both her first & second husbands married names, bilking the State and Federal government for various Welfare, Food Stamps and Assistance programs.

I had a guy in my home for computer repair about 7 years ago. His wife was foreign. He seemed to be saying he wished her and her family were not here. He hated the whole immigrant system where they come to live and get married to a citizen. He said english should be mandatory for citizenship. His wife spoke no english. I know because she would pick up the phone and screech in some pig latin language.

Anyway after his second trip here he was really comfortable. He told me how his wife and her family use multiple SS numbers to get benefits. Food stamps, welfare. He said they get more than one check. I said there is no background check, no proof they are who they are? He said it was a invasion of privacy to make them prove who they were with something like a finger print. WTH! WE put down our finger print for a drivers license.

So they go in a few times,fill out forms in different names and SSN. He said that some of them drove Escalades and lived in $2400.00 a month homes. What part of poverty is that?

I got rid of him because he was reading all of our emails. Weird guy.

58 posted on 04/27/2010 12:25:33 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: hoosiermama; Velveeta; JustPiper; Cindy; tutstar

~~#56 PING!


59 posted on 04/27/2010 12:45:38 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Saw that and while I knew the story and how Tim Geithner and Barry knew each other, I hadn’t seen a decent story put together like that.


60 posted on 04/27/2010 1:36:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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