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Obama Eligibility: A Birth Certificate Alone Does Not Prove Natural Born Citizenship
Conservative Examiner ^ | 4/24/2010 | Anthony G. Martin

Posted on 04/24/2010 11:59:52 AM PDT by Welshman007

While the nation was focused on the SEC investigation into Goldman-Sachs and other major stories, a little-noticed incident occurred which may have far-reaching implications for the 2012 Presidential election.

The Arizona House of Representatives voted to require Barack Obama to produce and show his birth certificate in order to be placed on the ballot in the state for his reelection bid in 2012.

Similar bills have been introduced in Oklahoma and Missouri, although the measures failed to become law due to one of the two branches of the legislatures failing to approve.

The issue will not go away, however.

A birth certificate alone is not enough to prove 'natural born citizenship' according to the understanding of the Framers of the Constitution.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bhofail; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; usconstitution
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To: Welshman007
http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/04/kenyan-minister-khalwale-asks-when.html

NATIONAL ASSEMBLY
OFFICIAL REPORT
Wednesday, 14th April, 2010

Excerpt below came from this pdf: http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=64&Itemid=

Question No.145
LIST OF CULTURAL ARTEFACTS MOVED FROM KENYA BY COLONIALISTS/FOREIGNERS

[snip] Dr. Khalwale: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Minister has told us that the office of the then Senator Obama gave him a lot of assistance. That is very good to hear. Could he tell us what commitment the same office made by way of compensation to this country because those artefacts in those museums have been attracting visitors who were paying to view them? What commitment did they make about compensation and more importantly, the biggest artefact in the USA today that belongs to this country is one Barrack Obama. How does he intend to repatriate himself or part of the money that is realized from all the royalties that he is attracting across the whole world?

If a Kenyan Minister is awaiting Mr Obama's REPATRIATION, it can only mean ONE THING. Obama is a Natural Born Kenyan who emigrated to the USofA. In light of this, Obama must show his long form birth certificate, whether it 'embarrasses' him or not.
21 posted on 04/24/2010 1:21:50 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: null and void

ping


22 posted on 04/24/2010 1:25:23 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.It's already tomorrow in Australia. CharlesSchulz)
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To: Welshman007

....”to require Barack Obama to produce and show his birth certificate”...

He’ll just say he already has and won’t be pressed further.


23 posted on 04/24/2010 1:53:22 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Welshman007

Ok...I’m confused. Why is this statement an issue....

“At issue, however, is whether or not the children of non-U.S. citizens but who are born on American soil are to be considered ‘natural born citizens.’ “

...when just above it, in this paragraph, it says the parents MUST BE US CITIZENS:

....” Presidential candidates must be natural born citizens, that is, persons who are born within the United States with parents who are U.S. citizens.”

And, regardless, both examples have to do with children born in the U.S., which, Obama WAS NOT.


24 posted on 04/24/2010 2:03:51 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: All

Obama will use his computerized Hawaii Certification of Live Birth to qualify for the ballot in Arizona.
The new law says that a candidate must demonstrate eligibility it does not require an original long form birth certificate.
The federal government accepts many states’ computerized print out birth certificates for passports and there is a federal law and a federal verification system in place to assure that birth documents aren’t forged or tampered with.
“July 28th, 2009
Dr. Chiyome Fukino Confirms President Obama’s Natural Citizenship”

http://spotlight.vitals.com/2009/07/dr-chiyome-fukino-confirms-president-obamas-natural-citizenship/


27 posted on 04/24/2010 4:24:56 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: All

JB Williams
Canada Free Press

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

Even if Orly NEVER brings Obama to trial, she has almost single handly brought his ineligibility to world wide attention, caused him to spend MILLIONS on lawyers to keep his records hidden AND CAUSED THE MUZZIE TO SWEAT BULLETS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded


28 posted on 04/24/2010 6:31:16 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: stylin19a; Welshman007
>>>geeze...I carry around a copy of my BC, but i really need to also carry a copy of my mom & dad’s BCs<<<

Not really. That only applies if you run for President.

And even then it doesn't matter. The requirement that both parents need to be U.S. citizens in order to be natural born is nothing more than birther mythology.

29 posted on 04/24/2010 10:27:40 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Welshman007
A birth certificate alone is not enough to prove 'natural born citizenship' according to the understanding of the Framers of the Constitution.

Exactly -- and furthermore the fact that he is/was the son of British/Kenyan national proves unequivocably that he is NOT a natural born United States citizen and NOT the legal President under out Constitution.

So then where are our Statesmen??? Where are those in our nation who have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution??? Why is this usurper still eating bon bons in the Oval Office???

30 posted on 04/25/2010 7:41:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Drew68; stylin19a; Welshman007

<>The requirement that both parents need to be U.S. citizens in order to be natural born is nothing more than birther mythology.<>

Is that so, Drew??? Then maybe you need a little history lesson to help you to discern between fact and fiction:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/


31 posted on 04/25/2010 7:47:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Welshman007

Watch Quickly Before this video is Pulled.

Obama IS a Muslim

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28


32 posted on 04/25/2010 9:22:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Welshman007

obumpa


33 posted on 04/25/2010 1:05:27 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

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34 posted on 04/25/2010 7:09:57 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: Shimmer1; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...

Ping


35 posted on 04/25/2010 7:33:34 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 458 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Welshman007

BTTT


36 posted on 04/25/2010 7:37:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: marron

Michael Dukakis ran for president and both his parents were from outside the USA.

(yes he is a jerk and lost)

This issue did not come up. That said, as far as anyone knows he only claimed ONE citizenship.

Under Ronald Reagan the law was changed to allow US citizens to vote in foreign elections and even hold office abroad while claiming US citizenship without foriting (sp) it.

I think you have it correct.


37 posted on 04/25/2010 7:48:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Michael Dukakis ran for president and both his parents were from outside the USA... This issue did not come up.

Good point. You're right, I don't think it ever came up, I don't think anyone even thought about it.

38 posted on 04/25/2010 7:58:41 PM PDT by marron
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To: longtermmemmory

Had Dukakis’ parents gotten naturalized before he was born or not, that would make all the difference. If they were naturalized before he was born, fine. If not, he would not have been a natural born citizen.


39 posted on 04/25/2010 8:07:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

prior to the last century immgration was still the perview of the states not the fed. There were no “green cards” for the founders to think about. You came here, bought land, and then you could be a citizen and vote.

We have to tread carefully on this issue to avoid the whole “living document” meme.


40 posted on 04/25/2010 8:25:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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