Posted on 04/15/2010 7:27:25 AM PDT by jay1949
So, what happened to all of those Scotch-Irish settlers and their descendants? It doesn't seem that large numbers of Americans identify themselves as Scotch-Irish (or Ulster Scots or Scots-Irish). If they do, the Bureau of the Census surveys don't reveal them. The answer is, the descendants of the Scotch-Irish settlers are legion -- but a great many of them call themselves simply "Americans."
(Excerpt) Read more at backcountrynotes.com ...
Well the Scots descendants that I’ve know would take great exception to all the experts.
My Scottish ancestors first came to America in the 1690s, and some Irish started mixing in later on. I don’t know if that qualifies as Scotch-Irish, but I find I have a taste for malt whiskey.
No offense intended, but I get this comment so often I have written a stock response — http://www.backcountrynotes.com/frontpage-blog/2010/4/2/scotch-irish-versus-ulster-scots-or-scots-irish.html
Personally, I don’t care which name anyone chooses; I use Scotch-Irish because it is traditional.
“If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of Virginia, plant my flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the Scots-Irish of that region, and make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who will never submit to British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a trigger.”
George Washington, at Valley Forge.
Small world. I have a Scot ancestor, Alexander Kirkpatrick, who was at Guilford Court House. From what I’ve read, the militiamen who fought at Guilford Court House were awarded bonuses in the form of Tennessee land grants. Alexander Kirkpatrick was awarded 640 acres — he must have potted a couple of Redcoats; that’s a square mile of land — but he sold his grant and stayed in NC.
A total of 4 of my ancestors were at Guilford CH; one father-and-son team of sgts. with a Maryland artillery regiment, but otherwise they didn’t know the others. The fourth was a cavalry officer from Virginia.
*ping*
Scot+German, contaminated with English ;>) — and my wife is part Cherokee.
Muttish? (Aren’t we all, really?)
Perhaps the most comprehensive reference every written about the Scotch-Irish is Chalkley’s “Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia: 1745-1800”.
Very much worth the read and an excellent reference on the Scotch-Irish.
What a great family history!
I guess Isaac took the land grants! I don’t know how much land he got. But there are grave markers of this White family on some rural land that my son visited, as he passed through the area on the way to Texas (home).
I think that very part of Tennessee where he owned land, once belonged to NC and then they moved some state boundary’s.
I really admire the ancestors who lived through that time!
This one doesn't. :-)
Yes, when you say Scotch-Irish you are actually saying whiskey Irish.
And the Scottish people refer to themselves as Scots, Scotsmen or Scotswomen not Scotch.
Very glad to read that.
Scottish-Irish....that would be me! :)
...and my forefathers arrived in Massachusetts.
My ex uncle by marriage, Bob Martin (he is now divorced from my husband’s aunt) is an expert on the tartans and very proud of his Scots’ heritage. He made a lot of kilts. He was the one who told me about using Scots or Scottish.
Yet in all things the preference of him being addressed must be respected so I will make sure to call you Scotch should we meet. As to tradition well in most things it is superior. I’ll leave it to others if it holds in this matter.
Now, you’ve gone beyond the pale, presuming to correct George Washington. He said “Scotch Irish,” get over it, lol.
Oh I did not take offense and the article was a very interesting read. Thanks.
“Now, you’ve gone beyond the pale, presuming to correct George Washington. He said “Scotch Irish,” get over it, lol.”
Yea, I know, I know. I have posted the quote both ways, and I get chewed out both ways.
Analytical is not one of the characteristics of a Scotsman – so I suspect we have some people with some mixed English or Norman blood posting here.
And for me to go head to head with them and argue the proper spelling of the word is more than I want to chew. And you know us Irish and Scots-Irish, ... we don’t like biting off more than we can chew – unless it’s an Englishman’s leg.
Thanks.
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