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Vocal Minority ^ | 3/23/10 | EricTheRed

Posted on 03/23/2010 7:17:54 AM PDT by EricTheRed_VocalMinority

John Winder at Cypress Times has a sobering piece on the contents of our new health (s)care monstrosity:

President Obama and his legion, Pelosi, Reid, Stupak, et al, have said basically that once the American people get to know what’s in the healthcare legislation, they’ll actually like it. We all know how very important it is to the President and Speaker Pelosi that the American people be happy. …

… A new 3.8 percent tax will be levied on interest, dividends, capital gains and other investment income for individuals making more than $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000.

The Medicare payroll tax will increase by 0.9 percentage point to 2.35 percent on wages above $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for married couples filing jointly.

Those last two taxes are important, as they target only the eeevil “rich.” It’s Obama’s way of redistributing wealth and, as he once said when lying to “Joe the Plumber,” punishing success. As with all Marxist progressive tax schemes, it will incentivize people from achieving financial wealth because they will end up being punished for it. The result is a nation where people strive for mediocrity, because mediocrity is safe. The more Americans who stay mediocre, the less money they earn. The less money they earn, the more likely they end up at what the federal government deems as the “poverty” level. The more Americans at the “poverty” level, the more they end up addicted dependents—and Democrat voters—of the welfare state. Everyone got that?

… 60% of new enrollees in health care programs will be fully subsidized by you. …

Which means the remaining 40% will have taxes siphoned out of their income to cover them, i.e., redistribution of wealth. It’s the Marxist-socialist Democrat’s wet dream. The majority of Americans will be permanent bloc of

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1 posted on 03/23/2010 7:17:54 AM PDT by EricTheRed_VocalMinority
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

But Charlie Rangle (sp?) says America KNEW it was voting for socialism when they elected Obama......


2 posted on 03/23/2010 7:20:53 AM PDT by Pecos
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Tyranny


3 posted on 03/23/2010 7:21:02 AM PDT by GregoTX (I am the resistance)
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PLEASE could we start action to demand a constitutional amendment the the government CAN NOT make ANY medical decisions for American citizens?

It wouldn’t be that hard. I bet 90% of Americans would support it and certainly we could get 2/3 states to ratify.


4 posted on 03/23/2010 7:21:59 AM PDT by Reagan69 (Hey, let me know when your health insurance premiums go DOWN, as promised !)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

“Here’s Your Change: Taxes, Fines, Taxes, Penalties, Taxes, Jail, Taxes, ...”

He left out “Immense subsidies to Insurance Corporations”.


5 posted on 03/23/2010 7:24:10 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

One difference: The people who elect to curtail their incomes to below $250K will remain anti-socialism, will vote conservative. and wait until the day when these laws are repealed.


6 posted on 03/23/2010 7:25:58 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Heaven help me if one of my Gen-Y, Obamabot co-workers say anything to me about this bill...

Their hippie BS is tolerable when it is just words. Now They are in my life and will sink the insurance my wife and I have worked hard to get.


7 posted on 03/23/2010 7:27:54 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya s ee how that turned out?)
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Now is the time to raise the number of dependents on your tax withholding form, do not allow the Government to use your money, have them ask for it.
Some States are holding on to your tax refunds, and I am more than sure they are not paying you any interest.

Some people are still of the mindset that when they get a refund, it is something the Government gave them.


8 posted on 03/23/2010 7:29:45 AM PDT by pennboricua
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When you sell a home in Mr. Obama’s new and improved America a 4% tax will be levied on your proceeds from the sale which will go to cover Health Care costs....

WTF?!

9 posted on 03/23/2010 7:32:57 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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“Here’s Your Change: Taxes, Fines, Taxes, Penalties, Taxes, Jail, Taxes, ...”

Jail....I can’t wait to see if they enforce this. They can’t seem to enforce immigration laws...not ‘humane’, too many aliens to enforce the law.....but we’re talking USA citizens, so maybe they will.


10 posted on 03/23/2010 7:33:14 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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The $200,000/$250,000 trigger points are not indexed, so in a few years, many more people will have incomes above those trigger points.

Surprise!


11 posted on 03/23/2010 7:42:21 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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Look where all this talking and praying got us. I fear the Country will soon explode and heaven help us all. We are a communists Country now and it will never change. Your standard of living will now trash and we will have such poor health care we might as well just stock up on aspirin. That is all we will get. Think not, watch the next few months how far we sink.
12 posted on 03/23/2010 7:47:16 AM PDT by Logical me
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To sum it up, we sheeple are being ‘given’ health care by a lying Congress and a president who smokes, who freely admit they haven’t read it, committee members that don’t understand it administered by treasury chief who is a tax cheat and paid for by a bankrupt nation....


13 posted on 03/23/2010 7:47:23 AM PDT by databoss
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When you sell a home in Mr. Obama’s new and improved America a 4% tax will be levied on your proceeds from the sale which will go to cover Health Care costs....

Is that right? Haven't heard that one before - that's huge!

14 posted on 03/23/2010 7:50:47 AM PDT by vrwc1
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This has nothing really to do with health care. The bill is to move us to pure communism and the takeover will continue. Health care was never the real issue. It was just a game to see how far they could push America. Abortion was just a flag to confuse what King Obama and his hard core communists want to sink America into. And millions of Americans were fooled and the sad part they are still blind. Were are done!
15 posted on 03/23/2010 7:54:37 AM PDT by Logical me
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http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/o/l/oleeb/2010/03/a-few-questions-about-the-heal.php?ref=recdc

A Few Questions About The Health Insurance Bill
March 18, 2010

Question 4. Is the bill going to stop insurance companies from denying coverage to those with previously existing medical conditions?

No, not right away and maybe not at all.

The bill allows insurance companies to keep denying coverage to sick children like they do presently for 6 months after enactment. The bill also gives the insurance companies an additional 4 years of denying adults coverage or dropping them due to previous conditions before they have to stop that immoral practice. Once the regulations take effect, insurance companies will face a paltry $100/day fine if they violate the rule. With fines that low it is quite likely insurance companies will choose to pay the fines as opposed to the more expensive medical care they should provide. It only makes sense for them to do so. After all, they aren’t in the healthcare business. Insurance companies are in the profit business. If given a choice between increasing their profits or not, is it reasonable or prudent to expect the insurance companies to lower their profits and cover those who need expensive treatments out of the goodness of their hearts?


16 posted on 03/23/2010 7:56:50 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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… A new 3.8 percent tax will be levied on interest, dividends, capital gains and other investment income for individuals making more than $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000.

The Medicare payroll tax will increase by 0.9 percentage point to 2.35 percent on wages above $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for married couples filing jointly.

Those last two taxes are important, as they target only the eeevil “rich.”


The Rich??? Sorry, if that is rich...A lot of small businesses will go under that are just getting by right now. Obozo has no clue as to the workings of a business, or if he does, is it out to bust the country - probably both...
17 posted on 03/23/2010 7:57:12 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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plus i love how the healthcare subsidy covers families who make up to $88,000 dollars!!! poor as dirt huh?


18 posted on 03/23/2010 8:00:10 AM PDT by applpie (u)
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To: Logical me

Not so fast there Johnny Morose, I believe in the American spirit the right ideals will prevail, the sleeping giant of conservative principles has been stirred up and will move properly to correct the mess caused by the appeasing repubicans and the Marxist in chief...


19 posted on 03/23/2010 8:04:16 AM PDT by databoss
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To: Pecos

He was right. I believe most of those who voted for Obama WERE voting for socialism. I’ve had people in my family actually say “What’s wrong wit socialism?” and they admitted they knew that’s what they were voting for.

We’re up against a lot more than just democrats in congress, folks.


20 posted on 03/23/2010 8:35:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross (We need a second SONS OF LIBERTY but there won't be one.)
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