Will passing Obamacare jolt us into reality?

The American Thinker Pie ^ | March 13, 2010 | Leslie S. Lebl

[Scanian]

If the Democrats succeed in passing ObamaCare next week, they could indeed usher in a new era - but not the one they want.

The conventional wisdom (which President Obama and I apparently share) is that any entitlement bill, no matter how bad, will remain on the books once it's passed.

But we've never had an entitlement bill opposed by four-fifths of the electorate, rammed through on a partisan vote that requires a highly dubious parliamentary maneuver. And one that will add trillions to the public sector deficits at a time when people are already worried about government spending.

So what if it passed, and the Democrats hemorrhaged seats next November - and the bill were subsequently repealed? This would indeed be the dawn of a new era, and one with profound implications for subsequent entitlement reform.

This is a long shot and, like 81% of the public, I fervently hope ObamaCare either fades away or goes down to defeat. But if it passes, maybe the truly appalling dimensions of this mistake will jolt us into true systemic reforms.

[Recon Dad]

Never say never on anything, I learned that a long time ago.
There’s a tremendous anger now and I suspect it will be enough to carry the GOP back to power in November, but with not enough to overturn the bill.
But, as we have seen in past sweeps that many party members who just lost power don’t like to stay around and play the minority role again. This time we are also going to have taken back most of the states and it will put us in a position to grab these retiring seats when they become available.
That’s how we overturn this crappy bill.

[Need4Truth]

This is the entitlement bill that helps so few and hurts so many.

[yorkie01]

States are finally rising up and demanding their constitutional rights back. The Federal bureaucracy has grown too much and disproportionately favors the left. It’s time to return Washington’s role to that of ‘gentlemen farmers’ or term-limited ‘representatives’ instead of the money-driven, special interest systems we now have. The left wields far too much power and to the point where minority anything now has absolute say and often control over the majority. This must be righted. It’s simply wrong to grant rights to special interests at the exclusion of those in the majority whether it be religious, social, ethnic, political, etc. It’s time for today’s politicians to fold up their tents and go home.

[Caipirabob]

Will passing Obamacare jolt us into reality?

It will certainly jolt us into bankruptcy.

That's the plan, though. Isn't it?

[mainerforglobalwarming]

If the gop wins big in November, they should shutdown the government until obamacare is repealed. They can say they have a mandate from the people to overturn socialized medicine, and nothing leaves congress until the President’s deplorable nonsense is repealed.

[Venturer]

The reality it will jolt me to is that This Nation will no longer be the Nation Of the People, By the People and For the Peaople.

We will have become a nation run by the Government for the benefit of the Government and it’s elitist faux intellectual,liberal professional lawyer politicians.

[central_va]

[Vaduz]

Kill the bill and the next person to even talks about a new healthcare bill,needs to have thumbs removed.

[WashingtonSource]

This is the entitlement bill that helps so few and hurts so many.

This is what the Dhimmis cannot grasp. They falsely assume people will love, but people will hate it from day one -- actually before day one.

The last health care bill that people hated, catastrophic health care, was repealed the very next year. Indeed, the public's loathing of this bill is going to have tremendous consequences. It could, if we all remain vigilant, kill progressivism forever as a significnat force.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Probably not, since most of the population now lives in vast Urban areas, has been indoctrinated by Public Schools and now looks to Government to take care of them in regards to food, water, shelter, transportation and income.

[JLAGRAYFOX]

If POTUS Obama gets his Obamacare health bill passed, he will have succeeded in huge part in moving much closer to his real goal, destroying the American medical system, destroying the American economy, worsening unemployment, bankrupting the nation, establishing a socialist/facist state that controls the lives of all Americans. I must admit, Rush Limbaugh had this guy wired from the gitgo and, so did I.

[GailA]

And we can hope the anger will sweep out the RINOS.

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.
PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts