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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: angawa; artbell; awgeez; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; coastprovincial; eligilbility; inelegible; kenya; lucassmith; mombasa; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; tinfoilhat
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To: autumnraine

Obama benefits whenever people think they can’t trust anybody else, because to work against him now that he’s in office will require people to unite. If he can create enough questions and distrust he can keep us from uniting.

His enemy is the truth. The more he can get people to think we can’t know the truth, the more likely we are to give up. That’s part of the communist’s over-arching plan to demoralize the nation. When people are divided and see nothing but smoke and mirrors with nobody to trust they can easily be conquered.

That fits to a T what Obama and his masters and minions have all been doing.


261 posted on 03/06/2010 9:49:11 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: etraveler13
If the two cases that came before the SCOTUS for consideration had been heard they would have had the wrong. defendants. Both named the SOS of respective states....Since the responsibility to vet is not part of their job descriptions the court chose to table the cases until later time, the court would have to have ruled in favor of the SOS of the states....BO would have gotten off.

Still waiting on the right defendant, plaintiff with the correct premise to be filed.

Your are aware that “standing” is not a law but a tool used by the judicial system to expedite their workload. (Progressive tool)

That only the SCOTUS have final rule on constitutional issues.

262 posted on 03/06/2010 9:50:12 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Please include me hoosiermama!


263 posted on 03/06/2010 9:53:09 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: butterdezillion

Your post reminds me of what my grandmother always said to me; “Satan’s greatest tool is the art of confusion.”


264 posted on 03/06/2010 9:54:51 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: butterdezillion

Your post reminds me of what my grandmother always said to me; “Satan’s greatest tool is the art of confusion.”

BTW, she meant that because if you are confused, you can’t make a solid decision, or succeed in anything you are attempting.


265 posted on 03/06/2010 9:55:22 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: butterdezillion

In order to see the truth, whether temporal or divine, people need to have a strong thirst to know the truth, and be willing to give up fondly help beliefs and ideas if proven wrong.

Thirst for truth is essential.

My tagline says “Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light”.


266 posted on 03/06/2010 9:59:05 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: autumnraine

Yeah. The financial melt-down was a violation of trust. The government has been throwing money at the problem when the problem is not money - it’s the trust that people have to have in the system and in people, in order to do business. As long as the issue of actual trust in the integrity of the foundations is not addressed, this nation can’t go anywhere - because the responses only show that the people who are supposed to fix the problem DON’T GET IT.

The ability of the people to join together to create foundations and expectations of stability is absolutely vital to a nation.

That’s why the lies (media), the corruption (government) and the mafia mentality (law enforcement) have to be addressed, and not just the individual issues such as healthcare, government motors, climategate, etc. Those are huge issues, but they illustrate the bigger, foundational problem: we have a government out of control and no way to make the laws stick. We have nobody we can trust.

Unless the good, law-abiding Hobbits in this nation find a way to unite and get back to our solid foundation, our “Shire” will be annihilated.

Media, government corruption, and the failure of law enforcement. Those are the battles of our day. Regardless of what anybody thinks about the eligibility issue, we need to join to insist on rebuilding those foundations.


267 posted on 03/06/2010 10:04:42 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: woofie

The basis of a con, is that he has something to gain...

What would that be? Not money, not fame....what?


268 posted on 03/06/2010 10:15:48 AM PST by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

He is selling books and he is selling “book futures” (he plans to write one)

He has said he is running for office

He has already achieved a certain notoriety and people have paid for him to fly around the country and go to court ....(It does seem that he thinks small however)


269 posted on 03/06/2010 10:23:01 AM PST by woofie
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To: DJ MacWoW
“QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS!”
270 posted on 03/06/2010 10:26:41 AM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: butterdezillion

It is conceivable that by the time Ann got him to the states, he’d gained one pound and one ounce so that current weight was shown on the delayed HI COLB.


271 posted on 03/06/2010 10:28:51 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: woofie

You insult him continuously, you discredit his efforts, his research, facts that he has made public, and are suprised at this response to you and the other trolls on the list, excepting Siezethecarp?
One who follows what has transpired over the past year or so, and the questions and accusations that were patiently, and sometimes angrily made, but none the less made, and the conclusions that were drawn, understand his anger.
If you want answers to old questions, you can easily research them. My guess is that you want him to regurgitate for your benefit, and your laziness the same conclusions.
It is not that you do not deserve answers, its that you seem to be too lazy to get them for yourself. He did give you a hint that they are already addressed. I just read Mike Teags regurgitated nonsense, addressed many times, step by step. It seems good ole Mike will see where Lucas is getting interesting info dispersed, and he cut and pastes his incendiary bombs to inflame new readers. This is OLD news, already discussed. Of course, this is Mikes attempt to discredit Smith, confuse new readers, and siderail meaningful discussion.


Consider if YOU were questioned about the same things for a year straight, patiently you answered these questions, and the current crop of listeners got their questions also answered. Then someone new steps in and starts all over with the same old questions. Eventually, you tell them to do their own homework, the answers they are seeking are out there with little effort, and that leaves you the time to continue your research without being purposely stalled by the likes of Trolls or new readers.
I hope you understand what I am saying. No malice here, just discussion. And, I don’t think your a troll.


272 posted on 03/06/2010 10:29:24 AM PST by etraveler13
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To: Natural Born 54
He was in Hawaii for school, but I remember reading that the grandmother & family in Kenya talking about Sr visiting during the summer breaks. I believe his school records backed this claim. The AGJ would have these records.

This would go back to the fall/winter of 2008/09. Anyone up to the challenge who was more involved in the debate back then?

273 posted on 03/06/2010 10:42:50 AM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: autumnraine
You know, admitting they made the Kenyan birth certificate as a prank isn’t really helping Obama. People are going to go “Well, if THAT one that looks so real is a fake, why couldn’t the Obama put online be a fake like others claim?”

The 1st part of your tag line says it all...

You can't fix stupid

274 posted on 03/06/2010 10:51:06 AM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: Brown Deer

LOL! google translate the word “Hawaii” to Arabic....you’ll discover that the arabic word below that last letter “a” in “kenya” means Hawaii. You were once again punked!

By the way look for any billboard in Kenya, they are not written in Arabic. They write in latin script of swihili.


275 posted on 03/06/2010 11:09:48 AM PST by Sectumsepra
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To: patlin

Ain’t that the truth!


276 posted on 03/06/2010 11:18:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: etraveler13

If I went to Africa and bribed someone to get a document which I knew would be controversial the FIRST thing I would do is get picture of myself standing in front of a monument there so I could prove I did what I said I did . I would also have my passport stamped at the Kenya port of entry with a time stamp so I could show it to ANYONE who asks WHEN I went there and left.

Pay attention to how James O’Keefe worked on the Acorn stuff.
He would not go into any situation without fully documenting his actions,

The FIRST thing someone asks when they inspect a document or painting for authenticity is to see its “Provenance” (look it up)

Smith has not provided one ...yet this (his acquiring this document) has happened recently ....Without a Provenance you must look at his (Smith’s) character to see if he might be lying. Smiths character is not good. He has done this kind of thing before.

Read all my posts on this thread . I helped bring word of Mr Smith to this site. I believed in his story . I no longer do .

Last, before you call me or anyone a Troll look up how long they have been here.

Oh I forgot.....as to what Smith gets out of this? He first had this on EBAY .He got bids of $1 mill. or more .But I guess he is not after money though because you think he is pure.

.


277 posted on 03/06/2010 11:27:54 AM PST by woofie
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To: DJ MacWoW

see m post #277.....Im outta here unless it becomes absolutely clear that I can shed some real light on any of this


278 posted on 03/06/2010 11:36:13 AM PST by woofie
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To: woofie

I have researched provinance for paintings, I am aware of its value, as does anyone who watches antiques roadshow.
James O’Keefe was once a rookie, and made rookie mistakes, just as Smith was, I assure you, he won’t make the same mistakes again. His current work proves that.
Smith has spent a lot of time backtracing to create provenance, and the fact that he does not publish it on this forum, does not mean that he does not have it. You and I both know that putting information that you have collected on any venue allows disinformation to begin. It is rife in this thread. Smith might not have provided provenance on this thread, that does not mean he has not provided it. Facts are indisputable once verified. Character of the person providing the evidence can be considered, but, if the facts prove out, they are secondary.
As far as you bringing word of Smith to this site, you might want to check that out as well.
As far as the troll comment, perhaps I use the term Troll differently than you. I see a regular poster as sometimes behaving like a troll, just because your a regular does not mean you cannnot be obstructionist, incendiary, rude, incorrect, misleading, idiotic, and just plain stupid with comments you make that do not progress the discussion. Derailing a thread with non-factual statements are the actions of troll like behaviour. I call em as I see em, and I base it on what I already know as fact.
Smith is not a millionaire...nothing more needs to be said about that.
Pure? FDLMAO...as he can attest, we have had our words. But his actions are louder than his words, and until the time comes where that changes, I will continue to listen, and verify.
Do you know anybody who screwed up, then went about trying to better themselves, only to find that they are condemned by their past? What to do? Give up? or ignore those who condemn, and progress. My guess is that those who condemn, are just as bad as those they accuse. Remember when you point your finger at someone, your pointing 3 at yourself.


279 posted on 03/06/2010 11:51:24 AM PST by etraveler13
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To: butterdezillion

in a nutshell..well thought out (standing ovation)


280 posted on 03/06/2010 11:52:50 AM PST by etraveler13
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