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19th Amendment, Was it the Beginning of the End for America?
The Way One Vike Sees it ^ | 3/3/10 | OneVike

Posted on 03/03/2010 7:12:30 AM PST by Tom Hawks

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OneVike strikes again. This is something many have said but few have dared to write an article about.

This is a real long read, but it's an easy read, and if you read the whole article you will see that he really does a good job of making his point.

I think he is correct, although I am sure there are those of you who would say it was actually the 17th amendment that did the worse damage. I heard someone say once that if it were not for the 17th, then the 19th never would have even been considered in the first place. I disagree though, because I think the time was ripe for the 19th regardless of the 17th.

Think about this, once the women saw that the blacks had equal rights, they wanted the same and it was just a matter of time. The article somewhat touches on that at the end of it.

Either way, this should drum up a good debate.

1 posted on 03/03/2010 7:12:31 AM PST by Tom Hawks
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OneVike asked me to post his article and ping his list. He is out of commission for a week. It seems that one of his brothers had a heart attack and he had to go back home to Minnesota for a spell. I guess he said he wrote this last year but then changed some things in it and asked me to post it. You must admit he does not shy away from controversy. Remember, I am just the messenger so don't shoot me if anyone gets offended by his article.

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2 posted on 03/03/2010 7:14:48 AM PST by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

So you think 50% of the population should be treated as 2nd class citizens without the right to vote? This man thinks that view is about the most idiotic one I have ever seen on FR.

IIRC, all of the Marxists and Fascist takeovers of nations were led by men as opposed to women.


3 posted on 03/03/2010 7:20:15 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Tom Hawks

No. The beginning was the 16th.


4 posted on 03/03/2010 7:21:31 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: Tom Hawks
Personally, I think this is the sort of idea that could marginalize conservatives.

Politics rarely deals with facts. If you want fact, explore engineering. Politics is about opinions. And there is no way that 300 million Americans are going to form the opinion that women should be disenfranchised.

I won't state my personal opinion (because it doesn't matter) but I will say that since this event isn't going to happen, we can only look foolish if we say, "Maybe it oughta!"

5 posted on 03/03/2010 7:21:56 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: Tom Hawks
No one who does not pay taxes should vote, be they male, female or whatever.

Otherwise, they will just vote for more largesse for themselves, the heck with the country.

6 posted on 03/03/2010 7:23:03 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Tom Hawks

Women don’t vote in Saudi Arabia. How is that working out?


7 posted on 03/03/2010 7:23:07 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Tom Hawks

All the women I’ve known have been totally liberal Dems, except for one. And my best friend found her first, and married her!


8 posted on 03/03/2010 7:23:39 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Tom Hawks

No.


9 posted on 03/03/2010 7:24:23 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: Tom Hawks

No it shouldn’t. No man with an ounce of self-preservation should touch this a ten-meter pole.

Really.

I’m warnin’ ya!


10 posted on 03/03/2010 7:25:07 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

That is the right way to handle things.
No representation without taxation.


11 posted on 03/03/2010 7:26:42 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Tom Hawks

He is wrong. It began years before when Woodrow Wilson was elected. Look at all the crap we got under him and his progressive congress; the Federal Reserve, the income tax, the 17th, 18th, and 19th Amendments.


12 posted on 03/03/2010 7:27:41 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: Tom Hawks

Dumbass females put Hussein in office. So was giving them the right to vote a mistake? Well GEE...LET ME THINK....


13 posted on 03/03/2010 7:34:13 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Actually what I meant was the 14the that might have been what my friends said. Wasn’t it the 14th that said you did not need to own property to vote?

Anyway, I am amazed at how many are just reading the portion of the article that is posted here. If they went and read the whole article they would see he is not advocating that they should lose their right, but just making his point of why it was a real bad one in hi view.


14 posted on 03/03/2010 7:34:51 AM PST by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

Well, maybe. But, it is not just the 19th Amendment, perhaps not even primarily. A lot has to do with population. After the Civil War, the population of the U.S. was heavily tilted toward women for awhile because of the number of dead soldiers. Social policies and attitudes changed, and not merely from voting rights. The same thing happened in Britain after WWI, albeit with the vote, too, when 1/3 of all men of college age were killed. Women wanted to be taken care of. Thus, the road to British socialism. Today’s American parallels can be seen in other ways: (1) a college population with is now more than 51% female; (2) a huge increase in the number of single mothers.


15 posted on 03/03/2010 7:37:25 AM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Tom Hawks

You are just as bad as the Muslims!

I am a woman who is both logical and emotional. I can argue without men, there would be NO rapes and No murders. What has brought this country down is liberal thinking, not female thinking.

Man, it is thinking like yours that deserves the camps Hitler provided!


16 posted on 03/03/2010 7:37:33 AM PST by purpleporter
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To: The_Media_never_lie
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Couldn't agree more. Only caveat is Military Veterans (disabled or otherwise) out with an Honorable, they should not be held to the "taxes to vote" thing.

17 posted on 03/03/2010 7:41:27 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: MrChips

so what do you say about the egalitarian persuasion that was prevalent as OneVike mentioned in his article?

You don’t think that had a lot to do with the mindset of the time also as he pointed out in his article?


18 posted on 03/03/2010 7:44:17 AM PST by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks
It is sad but true that women are natural liberals. It seems that they have to assure that they have the government and/or a man to look after their needs. It is a bunch of hooey that women wanted equal rights. They wanted extra rights.

I am a woman and I have told people for years that I would give up my right to vote if all women had to give up their right to vote. That is an absolute no-brainer to me.

19 posted on 03/03/2010 7:46:17 AM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Dumbass females

That's not a nice thing to say about your Mother.

20 posted on 03/03/2010 7:49:13 AM PST by 1raider1
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