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The Results of Socilaized Medicine: Do we Really Want What Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are Selling?
Conservative Hideout 2.0 ^ | 2-27-10 | Matt

Posted on 02/27/2010 5:27:18 PM PST by ConservativeHideout

The Daily Mail published this report on the events at one UK hospital.

"Not a single official has been disciplined over the worst-ever NHS hospital scandal, it emerged last night.

Up to 1,200 people lost their lives needlessly because Mid-Staffordshire NHS Trust put government targets and cost-cutting ahead of patient care.

But none of the doctors, nurses and managers who failed them has suffered any formal sanction."

The inquiry found that:

• Patients were left unwashed in their own filth for up to a month as nurses ignored their requests to use the toilet or change their sheets;

• Four members of one family. including a new-born baby girl. died within 18 months after of blunders at the hospital;

• Medics discharged patients hastily out of fear they risked being sacked for delaying;

• Wards were left filthy with blood, discarded needles and used dressings while bullying managers made whistleblowers too frightened to come forward."

So, if or when ObamaCare passes, is this what we are to expect here? Just remember that ObamaCare is the Cloward-Piven Plan that will lead us to the exploitable crisis that the government needs to justify taking over the health care system.

Since the public option was soundly rejected by the people, they have to add an additional step to get the public option. The current plan is just that. If they can cripple the insurance industry with this bill, they can justify the public option. The public option will then work towards it’s stated purpose, and the government can begin the gradual (or not) takeover of all health care.

Coming soon to a hospital near you?


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; hillarycare; nhs; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare
Just a reminder of the quality care that folks receive under single payer plans.
1 posted on 02/27/2010 5:27:19 PM PST by ConservativeHideout
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To: ConservativeHideout

That MUST be a rhetorical question...


2 posted on 02/27/2010 5:30:41 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Fear not, it is a rhetorical question.


3 posted on 02/27/2010 5:32:40 PM PST by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: ConservativeHideout

So, if the Pelosi/Reid/Obamanation passes - we must demand that malpractice insurance stay in place.

There has to be a way for citizens to sue the GOVERNMENT SPONSORED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM for toxic care, lack of care and/or killing us.


4 posted on 02/27/2010 5:36:20 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460358/posts

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


5 posted on 02/27/2010 5:40:15 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: ConservativeHideout

I thought so. No fear. ;-))


6 posted on 02/27/2010 5:48:05 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: GailA

I DARE them to increase Tri-care fees....double-dog DARE them!


7 posted on 02/27/2010 5:52:10 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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8 posted on 02/27/2010 5:54:04 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

That is PERFECT!!


9 posted on 02/27/2010 6:26:40 PM PST by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: ConservativeHideout

The people have been answering that question for the past year.


10 posted on 02/27/2010 7:29:12 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: ConservativeHideout; ExTexasRedhead; JustPiper; blackie
21% paycut for Medicare doctors beginning Monday - does that sound like a healthcare plan you'd care to have if it were the only healthcare plan you had? Obama and his dems are playing with fire doing this and attemptinig to shove healthcare through on the rest of us.

Oh and by the way, a millon Americans will be saluting Obama bigtime come Monday.....all those job summits and NO JOBS!

Unemployment benefits set to expire Sunday for over 1 million people

11 posted on 02/27/2010 10:16:05 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest
"Do we Really Want What Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are Selling?"

Hell No!!

12 posted on 02/28/2010 9:37:10 AM PST by blackie
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To: MamaDearest

thanks for this ping, adding to warehouse


13 posted on 02/28/2010 2:24:25 PM PST by JustPiper (I won't fall in line against my beliefs~ I won't argue with you because my opinion differs)
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To: SumProVita

They already have a DOD bill, goes into effect in 2011! Come January of 2011! So I suggest you make some phone calls to your buddies, emails, etc. Also to congresscritters tell them to take the lead in getting it REPEALED. I’ve made my calls, and remind them every time I call about obamadeathcare that it needs REPEALED. The first link gives the best explaination, and tells exactly what page it’s located on of the DOD bill. The Navy/Army Times tells the bill number HR 2647 which just bars the increases until 2011..

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

Snip

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


14 posted on 02/28/2010 4:03:45 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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