[BuckeyeTexan]

Thought you might find this educational.

Tex

[BuckeyeTexan]

Ping to Hawaii Revised Law re: birth certificates.

[Carling]

It will be an interesting case for the history books, hat’s for sure.

Meanwhile, there is literally zero chance that any of this Birther stuff impacts the mid-terms this fall.

[TigersEye]

btrl

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

[Diogenesis]

THE MECHANISM

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Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.”
It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in.
In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9)
.... there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.”
The statute provided that “the probative value of a ‘delayed’ or ‘altered’ certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year.
(See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.)
In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”

[Diogenesis]

THE COVERUP

Proof of DNC Corruption ignored by DOJ and SCOTUS
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Altered voting certificates by Pelosi for election fraud for the DNC

Exhibit 1: (the original, but discarded) states:
”THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the
United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the
following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice
President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President
and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions
of the United States Constitution:”

Exhibit 2: specifically leaves out the qualifying requirement:
”THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the
United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the
following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice
President of the United States respectively:”

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Exhibit 3: More altered documents where the natural born requirement
Check off box … was removed.

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“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates, Hibarger said. “

[True Republican Patriot]

Thank you so much for this excellent article! Its clearer than ever with your information that OBOZO is an Outright Fraud being covered by a Mass Slander Machine and a Nefarious MEDIA Gaggle of Fraudulent Propagandists posing as Journalists and News Anchors! This Fraudulent Scandal will possibly Match the Fraudulent Scandal we are witnessing with the Global Warming Meltdown!! Its Outrageous that We have a Compulsive LIAR in the WHITE HOUSE and he is still protected by those who claim their professsion is to find and print the Truth! Our Media would do HITLER PROUD!!

[Qwackertoo]

At this point, I just hope I’m still alive if/when the long form birth certificate, IF there is one, finally hits daylight. ;)

[BP2]

Re-direct your comments to the thread below,
where the smell of After-Birther flesh is in the air:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2457491/posts?q=1&;page=751

[IrishCatholic]

BOOKMARK.

[Seizethecarp]

Ping

Very interesting...

[Danae]

Excellent article and even better questions. Very very nice work BT!

[Man50D]

Note the term used for BO's/BS's father's race is "African". The problem for BO/BS is that the Department of Health,Education and Welfare used the term "Negro", not "African at the time BO/BS was born. Someone who could not stand the politically incorrect termed changed it to fit their ideology.

[MinuteGal]

As long as Obama, his family, entourages and all their associated dollars continue to vacation in Hawaii, the state powers-that-be will never give him up.

Leni

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

As I previously posted:

“The state health department in Hawaii did produce a “short form” birth certificate for Obama, ....”

Absolutely false statement ...

An OBAMA friendly WEBSITE has produced a SCAN of a document called the short form .... who the hell “produces” documentation needed by posting a SCAN ?

Try that with the DMV.

Or little league.

Where is the original piece of paper? Why, after two years, are we still asking for it???

—— McCain stood up in Congress and handed his original, on a piece of paper, around to everyone who wanted to see it. Why can’t and won’t Bambi do the same???

Why can’t Obama do the same, when he evens says in his ghost written book “I found my birth certificate in a pile of old papers”. Lose it? Somewhere in the $3,000,000 mansion that Tony Rezko, convicted felon, bought for him???

Why can’t he, and won’t he, just hand an original piece of paper to Chris Matthews, or someone else, to hand to and show to , everyone?

Hiding behind a SCAN? Not very Presidential ...

So “Hawaii has produced a certificate” is a laughable mis-statement ...

And while we’re at it:

The SCAN shown on the internet is a Certification of Birth, NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, a SUMMARY which can and perhaps has been changed many times, as O was adopted and then sent back to the USA by his momma.

The original Birth Certificate is called the Hawaiian LONG FORM -— (there are 4 different versions and his CERTIFICATION seems to be usually used for special cases such as after adoptions).

which is why you see on FR “Free the Long Form”.

No scan or anything else of a Long Form BC citing hospital and doctors has ever been produced ———— or scanned. Why?

**********No witness has ever come forward -— no one who was in Hawaii in 1961, NO ONE has ever come forth and said that they were at the birth or afterwards, with statements or photos, ********no doctor, no nurse, no neighbor, no friend -— only people in Seattle and Kenya have made statements about O’s birth.

So, as of today, 2-2010, no one knows the hospital or the doctor’s name since the Long Form has never been produced.

Even the neighbor has said “Gee, I didn’t know Obama or his mother ever lived next door”. Must be invisible.

Any person with common sense knows that this guy doesn’t wave his paper long form or even short form birth certificate over and around his head cuz he can’t. Why can’t he? No one knows for certain.

Two announcements in the newspapers: these are produced automatically when someone files notice of a birth with the Department in Hawaii. No proof needs to be filed, it seems it even could have been done over the phone and with just one grandparent’s statement. Then the data was given to the newspapers. This was done since the grandparents wanted Bambi to be an American, which Hawaii allowed to be done due to its unusual and unique laws letting people born elsewhere still register in Hawaii. It’s not a “conspiracy” as that horse’s ass Matthews said - it’s just common sense. An American birth registration is valued very highly and gets you all sorts of travel and other benefits.

*********Does everyone know that Obama’s Short Form serial number is “out of order”? That his number comes 10 numbers BEFORE the twins born and registered 3 days AFTER Obama’s “date of birth”???

How could that happen? Doesn’t the Department registering births handle them sequentially as the dates and data are submitted???

No one finds this odd?

Here is another’s opinion:

Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.

“They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion,” one knowledgeable source told Newsmax. “But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file.”

At the time of the breach, Brennan was working as an unpaid adviser to the Obama campaign.

Chuck Feney says:

The issue that Soetoro / Obama is running from is his mother’s renunciation of his American citizenship when she married Lolo Soetoro.

Soetoro / Obama was an Indonesian citizen and never reclaimed his American citizenship in the legally allotted time frame to do so.

Add to this issue his Occidental College records of admittance as a FOREIGN student and it is clear that the Kenyan birth is a straw dog.
It just goes on and on.

I wonder if we’ll ever know the true story, as the true believer’s continue to shout and scream and cover-up and excuse upon each and every new revelation.

The insults to us alone are overwhelming.

[curiosity]

All this article proves is that it was theoretically possible for an unscrupulous person to get away with a fraudulant birth registration in Hawaii in 1961.

Big deal. The same is true with every state, even today. What is a state supposed to do with babies born in unfortunate circumstances? Unless we're prepared to deny them citizenship, there have to be provisions under the law that allow registration of unattended births, and that is going to make fraud possible.

What the author fails to do is distinguish between the possible and the plausible. Yes, it is possible that Obama wasn't born in the US, and his mom exploited provisions in the law to fraudulantly register her son. But is it plausible?

No. There was no reason for her to commit fraud to register his birth in Hawaii, even if he were born outside the US. Under immigration laws at the time, he was eligible for naturalized citizenship as the minor child of a US citizen. All his mom would have to do is fill out an application and produce proof of her own citizenship, as well as her maternity.

Therefore, unless she had the incredible clarvoiyance to know he would one day run for president, there would have been no reason to committ fraud to secure all the benefits of US citizenship for her son.

So yes, fraud in this case is theoretically possible, but it's not plausible because 1) there's no motive for it and 2) no evidence of it.

Here's a question the birthers never want to answer. Suppose his long form is released and it shows an unattended birth. What then? How are you going to prove it's fraudulant?

I don't see how they could, given that to date they have failed to unearth a single shred of evidence suggesting Bambi was born anywhere other than Hawaii. Further, I don't see how the release of the long form would in any way make their search for such evidence any easier.

[MilspecRob]

bump for later

[Dajjal]

obumpa

[tired_old_conservative]

Someone sent me this. It's pretty harsh, but not unfair at this point. I'd cut-and-paste it, but the true believers are feeling sensitive enough these days.

http://bigjournalism.com/kschlichter/2010/02/08/get-over-it-birtherism-is-not-journalism/

[Cvengr]

Thanks for the post.