The real reason Palin quit as Alaska Governor?

[B4Ranch]

There is a few similarities between Palin and Clinton. Both were Governors, both resigned from that office, both were extremely popular with the middle class, both can/could raise a heap of cash in short notice.

[SuziQ]

You may not be able to get past it, but many will look at her accomplishments, in addition to her service as Governor, and see that she has great potential. And, when told the reason WHY she chose to resign, many will completely understand, after witnessing the ugliness directed toward her and her family.

I'm not choosing a candidate this far out, because we simply have no idea who will be in the running, come the time to declare for the 2012 election. She may decide to run, she may not, but I'll compare her to the others who are running, then make my decision. I'm just not going to count her out.

[Matt Hatter]

Let me say that if Sarah Palin wins the nomination, I will vote for her. I refuse to sit it out or go third party if the candidate of my choice doesn’t make it. I am a pragmatist at heart and it would be plain stupid to hand this fowl person who is in the White House now another 4 years!

Can we afford to get to the point that we become so one minded about a candidate, that if it doesn’t work out, we allow Obama another term? Not me. Others will have to make their own minds up on that.

[SuziQ]

Oh, I agree with you, and I WILL vote for the Republican, because NOT to do so would be folly, at best, suicidal at worst, considering Obama WILL run. I guess it depends on if any Democrat is willing to suffer the slings and arrows of the MSM while running against him in the primary.

[wtc911]

Well, as someone who seems to have liberal leanings and is hostile to common-sense women,

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I see that your powers of character assessment are as weak as your understanding of the American voter. You are still good for a laugh though.

[GLDNGUN]

I see that your powers of character assessment are as weak as your understanding of the American voter. You are still good for a laugh though.

I am the one living in reality, while you are trying to exist in a universe of your own creation. FACT: Palin is the current GOP front-runner. FACT: You can't name a GOP contender that would beat her in the primary. When you can deal with those realities and not have a nervous breakdown from your delusions crashing down around you, you'll be on your way to recovery.

[wtc911]

I am the one living in reality....

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Yeah, a reality where quitting an elected position halfway through to become, as you called it, 'a fulltime wife and mother' is the equivelant of resigning to assume a higher elected office....some reality.

[GLDNGUN]

Yeah, a reality where quitting an elected position halfway through to become, as you called it, 'a fulltime wife and mother' is the equivelant of resigning to assume a higher elected office....some reality.

We get it. You don't need to continually re-hash your lack of respect for women in general, and specifically for mothers and wives.

Now, come to grips with this - Palin is the current GOP front-runner. Nobody is even close to attracting the level and depth of support she does. If she were speaking alone at one venue, while every other potential GOP nominee were speaking at another venue at the same time, she would out-draw all of them combined. IF she runs for the GOP nomination, she will be VERY hard to beat. Basically it will be hers to lose IF she runs. Those are the facts. It's up to you whether you want to grow up and deal with it. Makes no difference to me whether you do or not, but I'm done trying to explain a round globe to a flat-earther. Buh-bye.

[wtc911]

You don't need to continually re-hash your lack of respect for women in general, and specifically for mothers and wives.

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You are delusional....

[reasonisfaith]

Maybe they can come up with even more hurtful ways to attack her kids. Gotta hand it to the liberals—they’ve just been right on everything lately, haven’t they?

[Non-Sequitur]

Maybe they can come up with even more hurtful ways to attack her kids. Gotta hand it to the liberals—they’ve just been right on everything lately, haven’t they?

Is there any doubt that they won't?

[reasonisfaith]

If their demented global warming and tyrannical obamacare behavior is any indicator, yes.

[truthkeeper]

We get it. You don't need to continually re-hash your lack of respect for women in general, and specifically for mothers and wives.

Speaking from a woman and a mother who is underwhelmed with Sarah Palin, that was a cheap shot. Next time try a better argument.

[GLDNGUN]

Speaking from a woman and a mother who is underwhelmed with Sarah Palin, that was a cheap shot. Next time try a better argument.

I'm afraid the cheap shot is to claim that being a wife and mother is nowhere near as important as being a politician. Frankly, I'm shocked that you, as a woman and a mother, would agree with that assesment. You don't consider the motherhood to be important? You think being a politician is more important? Very odd.

[truthkeeper]

I'm afraid the cheap shot is to claim that being a wife and mother is nowhere near as important as being a politician. Frankly, I'm shocked that you, as a woman and a mother, would agree with that assesment. You don't consider the motherhood to be important? You think being a politician is more important? Very odd

Sorry, I read the posts and wtc is right...you made a twisted conclusion and frankly, a slander. I agree with him, your assessment sounds delusional.

And by the way, I don't hide behind my sex and I don't approve of other women who choose to go in the public arena doing it either. It's fine to want to play with the big boys - I have to do it every day and so do millions of others - but if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the damn kitchen. It does get HOT in there.

[GLDNGUN]

Sorry, I read the posts and wtc is right...you made a twisted conclusion and frankly, a slander. I agree with him, your assessment sounds delusional.

Well, you had better read again. He claimed that the ONLY time it's "ok" to quit an elected office to accept another elected office. Do you agree with that? Yes or no? I would strongly disagree. Since when is "elected office" the end all? As conservatives we claim that government is too big and that elected officials are too full of themselves. To say that the ONLY time you can quit office is to seek/accept a better political job is something a liberal would say. It's something you say if you think being a politician is THE most important thing to do. Now of course liberals want politicans to have as much power as possible and they would like to make it the most important job in the world. They want the "elites" telling us peons how to live our lives. Like Sarah Palin, I happen to think there are many things to do besides being an elected official to have a positive impact on society. Palin had little choice but to quit IF she wanted to serve her constituency and not herself. It also allowed her to spend more time with her husband and children. To wtc, that was laughable. If you agree with him, so be it. It's a slap at not only mothers and wives, but to anyone who think that being an elected official is the only worthy thing to do in life.

And by the way, I don't hide behind my sex and I don't approve of other women who choose to go in the public arena doing it either. It's fine to want to play with the big boys - I have to do it every day and so do millions of others - but if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the damn kitchen. It does get HOT in there.

What are you even talking about? When did Palin ever "hide behind her sex"? If you are making that assertion about Palin, it's laughable and ludicrous.

[wtc911]

He claimed that the ONLY time it's "ok" to quit an elected office to accept another elected office.

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You are a liar. You are "" quoting me...use my own words, not the ones you wish I had written.

[wtc911]

"Like Sarah Palin, I happen to think there are many things to do besides being an elected official to have a positive impact on society."

Then why did Sarah actively seek the office to begin with? Your argument is laughable.

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"It also allowed her to spend more time with her husband and children. To wtc, that was laughable. If you agree with him, so be it. It's a slap at not only mothers and wives, but to anyone who think that being an elected official is the only worthy thing to do in life."

Again, you lie. What is laughable to me is that you equate Palin quitting to, as you insist, become a better mom (let's forget that she's running around the country on book tours - without her kids) with assuming a higher office. Sorry sparky, that is just dumb.

It is always informative when one has to lie and mis-quote in order to continue an argument. It means that they are lost.

[newfreep]

From C4P:

Whenever Sarah Palin’s name gets mentioned in mixed company, you will inevitably encounter the tired “quitter” accusation. It surprises me how often this comes up, not only with people who follow politics closely but those far removed from it. It goes to show how hard the media has hit Governor Palin on this issue without explaining the who, what, when, where and why very effectively. The “quitter meme” carries with it such contradictions that it’s easy to poke holes in false perceptions. You might just first ask yourself if the same people calling her a “quitter” are the ones saying she’s not fit to hold any office of responsibility anywhere. See what I mean?

The conversation about “quitting” usually goes something like the following four scenarios and you can use the sample responses to politely challenge your friends, family and co-workers on their misperceptions.

Scenario #1: Resigning shows bad character – or does it? For the politically uninvolved, who don’t have a lot of knowledge about the situation, the term quitter has automatic negative connotations.

Sarah Doubter: She's a quitter. I won't vote for her.

You: So quitting is always a bad thing?

Sarah Doubter: Yes, it shows a lack of character.

You: Have you ever quit a six-figure job before?

Sarah Doubter: No, but that doesn't have anything do with it.

You: Did you know Sarah Palin quit another six figure job, her oil & gas ethics commissioner job before she became governor?

Sarah Doubter: No, but that just proves she's a lifelong quitter.

You: Yeah, she quit to protest corruption when the sitting Republican governor wouldn't investigate the state party chair for sharing confidential state documents with an oil lobbyist. She quit because by law as a commissioner she couldn't go public with her concerns because of confidentiality rules. So she quit to be able to blow the whistle on collusion knowing it would probably kill any chance she had to succeed in state politics as a Republican. And you know what happened to that state party chair? He was later given the largest ethics fine in Alaska history, largely because Sarah had the courage to put pressure on the governor's office and the Republican party.

Sarah Doubter: Well, if she's so tough, she should have stayed in her job as governor.

You: If you were working in a job that was costing you almost twice as much to go into work everyday than you were making would you stay there?

Sarah Doubter: No, definitely not.

You: Well, Sarah Palin was paid roughly $337,500 in 32 months as governor. After 19 bogus ethics charges against her, she owed around $600,000 in legal fees to her attorney. Had she stayed in office another 16 months, she likely would have been forced into bankruptcy because Alaska law does not automatically cover the legal defense of its governors, and Sarah did not want to foot taxpayers with the bill. Would you have been willing to go bankrupt in your job?

Sarah Doubter: Well, no ...

You: So quitting is not always a bad thing?

Sarah Doubter: Well, she just wanted to make money and be a celebrity. She could have paid her legal fees with her book deal and speeches anyway.

You: So, she should have done her book deal and speeches while being governor and collecting a paycheck from taxpayers and attracting even more frivolous lawsuits every week that she stayed in office?

Sarah Doubter: No

You: So, quitting turned out to be the best thing for Sarah Palin personally and the State of Alaska?

Sarah Doubter: I guess so …

Scenario #2: Resigning displays a lack of toughness – or does it? For some conservatives, the question of Palin’s resignation evokes their disdain that she couldn’t keep up the fight, and their belief that she “let her enemies win.”

Sarah Doubter: Nobody who ever quit a governorship in their first term could be elected president. It's just not going to happen.

You: So you're concerned about how Sarah Palin's resignation affects her political image and electability?

Sarah Doubter: Yeah, it shows she can't handle the heat.

You: So staying in office would have shown she could handle heat?

Sarah Doubter: That's exactly what I'm saying.

You: What you're suggesting is that quitting removed the heat from her, right?

Sarah Doubter: Yes, exactly.

You: Isn't it true that by quitting she has attracted more heat, including from people like you on her own side? And wouldn't it, in fact, have been easier to sit in office, collect a paycheck, concede to spend 80% of your time on non-productive "defensive" activities, stick taxpayers with the bill, travel the world, and pretend that you're accomplishing something?

Sarah Doubter: Well, she should have just fought her enemies instead of letting them win.

You: If you decide to continue fighting your enemies at the expense of the people you serve is that even ethical? If your presence in office is causing heavy collateral damage to your state, is it smart and ethical to remain in office no matter the cost?

Sarah Doubter: Well, every politician has political enemies. Ronald Reagan had them, George Bush had them. They didn't quit.

You: Has any politician at the state level attracted the volume of attacks directed at Sarah Palin? Is it normal for a governor to go personally bankrupt defending themselves against bogus ethics complaints? Sarah Palin incurred almost twice as much legal debt as the salary she drew as governor. Every day she spent in office she was one day closer to personal bankruptcy.

Sarah Doubter: Well, she should have started a private legal defense fund then.

You: She did, which led to yet another frivolous ethics complaint, wherein a politically motivated investigator suggested Sarah should just let Alaska taxpayers pay for her legal defense. They wanted Alaskans to take the bullet for the political malice of Sarah's enemies.

Sarah Doubter: Well, I guess that's just part of politics. Taxpayers always get shafted.

You: So that's politics as usual, huh? Are you happy with politics as usual?

Sarah Doubter: No, not all.

You: Do you think people out there in America who are gathering for tea party protests are happy with politics as usual?

Sarah Doubter: No, absolutely not.

You: So doesn't that suggest that Sarah Palin has a huge base of supporters sympathetic to her decision making? Isn't she really the patron saint of "no politics as usual"? She gave up power, saved the people from frivolous legal expenses, and now continues to fight her enemies on the national stage as a private citizen?

Sarah Doubter: Well, maybe.

You: And don't we need more leaders just like her who won't go with the flow?

Sarah Doubter: I guess so. You may have a point.

Scenario #3: She wasn’t a serious governor – or was she? There are many on the independent or liberal side who use Sarah’s quitting to prove she was just plain flaky and didn’t take her governor’s job seriously. Here’s how it usually goes:

Sarah Doubter: She quit on her state, and that’s just wrong.

You: So you think Alaska would have been better off had Palin not resigned with 16 months left in her term?

Sarah Doubter: Yes, that’s what I’m saying.

You: Hmmm … How specifically would the state have benefited from her staying in office?

Sarah Doubter: Well, she promised to serve a four-year term. She’s quit on them to go make money.

You: But how would it have benefited her state, her continuing being in office?

Sarah Doubter: It just would have.

You: So, what you’re really saying is that despite her administration spending 80% of their time fighting junk ethics charges, Palin was indispensable in governing the state of Alaska?

Sarah Doubter: No, she’s a quitter. That’s all.

You: So, you’re really concerned with how her resignation affected her political image rather than the actual effect it had on her state?

Sarah Doubter: No, that’s not what I said.

You: Do you generally support or oppose politicians who put their state’s interests ahead of their own political image?

Sarah Doubter: Sarah is a money grubber and she’s stupid.

You: So you're glad she resigned?

Scenario #4: She’s a diva – or is she? There are some independents who may not be that political but they’ve read about Sarah Palin getting lots of money for her book deal, and that’s the image they have of the governor – as someone attracted to the bright lights of fame, willing to throw her state under the bus.

Sarah Doubter: She really let her state down. How can we trust a woman like that?

You: So you think Alaskans are disappointed she quit?

Sarah Doubter: They should be.

You: Well, I guess if they thought she was doing a good job, they would be disappointed. Do you think she was doing a good job as governor for her state?

Sarah Doubter: I dunno. Maybe

You: Well, according to most Alaskans she was one of the better govenors Alaska has ever had with a long list of accomplishments in just 2 1/2 years so yes, that's understandable that some would be bitterly disappointed about her resignation. They really liked her and wanted her to be their governor judging from the 80% approval rating she had before the VP pick.

Sarah Doubter: She's just such a quitter.

You: Why would someone who was doing such an outstanding job as governor just up and quit?

Sarah Doubter: Because she wanted to be a celebrity.

You: Wasn't she already a celebrity after the VP pick anyway?

Sarah Doubter: She wanted to make more money.

You: Well, quitting a six-figure job isn't the first thing that comes to mind when you want more money. She would have had the book money regardless of whether she quit her governor's job. But it sounds like you think she's a diva who cares only about a cushy lifestyle?

Sarah Doubter: Basically, yes.

You: So, she does a fantastically competent job as governor, including reducing the governor's personal travel budget by 85%, selling the private jet, laying off the chauffeur and the chef to save the state money (not to mention all the policy initiatives she got passed)... and she spends several weeks during the summer as a commercial fisherwoman, one of the grimiest jobs on the planet ... and then she wakes up one day and decides to become a diva? Do divas actually fish?

Sarah Doubter: She got used to the crowds on the campaign trail and all the adoration. She missed that.

You: So you don't buy her reason that her newfound celebrity and the negative attention and bogus charges it brought was harming her state?

Sarah Doubter: No.

You: Hmmm ... So it was fair to Alaskans for their executive branch of government to be basically shut down with 80% of its time dealing with frivolous lawsuits and freedom of information act requests? Doesn't that sound like a huge waste? One frivolous suit after another ... 19 in all, with no merit to any of them, all because of the presence of celebrity Sarah Palin in office? Wasn't she really harming her state sticking around? Basically doing more harm in her position than good?

Sarah Doubter: Well, maybe. I dunno about all those ethics charges.

You: Would divas really care about their states? If she were a diva, wouldn't she have stayed in office, screwed the state over, traveled around the country or the world the next year (expensed it to Alaska) and reveled in being an Alaskan celebrity while still collecting her governor's salary? Nobody would have called her a "quitter" then. Don't you think, in fact, it took guts to quit? Especially knowing her decision might be misunderstood by Alaskans and that she might be signing her political death warrant?

Sarah Doubter: I suppose.

You: Don't we need more elected officials with that kind of courage?

Sarah Doubter: Probably

[truthkeeper]

What are you even talking about? When did Palin ever "hide behind her sex"? If you are making that assertion about Palin, it's laughable and ludicrous.

Your "arguments," such as they are, are specious and disingenuous at best. It is YOU who is giving her, and every woman, cover to do so. Do you even bother to read what you write, or do you just ramble?

Yes, if you take a job as a politician (I must have missed the part where the gun was at her head) it would be lame to suddenly decide to "spend more time with her husband and children" halfway through the term. However, those are YOUR words, not hers. (Unlike you, I actually read what you write.) Swallowing that argumentment is just plain insulting to women.

So get it now? YOU are being insulting and disrespectful to women.