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Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.
nobarack08 | Feb 12, 2010 | syc1959

Posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959

Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.

Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.

The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.

Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barack; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; illegal; nativeborncitizen; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; undocumented
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To: EnderWiggins

Oh so thats why DEMOCRAT Claire introduced it, and then introduced it again?

FAIL

You see, for congress to DO that, it is unconstitutional. Thats why it fails every time. You can’t amend the constitution by legislation...

Fail fail fail.


921 posted on 02/16/2010 1:09:22 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

How do imagine that changes what the court said? Exactly?

Please... actually use your words as opposed to just cutting and pasting a lot of stuff and making no effort to even begin to make a point.


922 posted on 02/16/2010 1:11:31 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

It renders your miss-interpretation clear wiggy. It also displays your disingenuousness.


923 posted on 02/16/2010 1:12:45 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

Last I looked, Obama was President and this Republican bill has never passed.

So he clearly did not need it.

I’m at a loss as to whether or not you had another point beyond that one.


924 posted on 02/16/2010 1:13:34 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: Danae

It demonstrates nothing beyond your ability to cut and paste. It certainly includes no argument.


925 posted on 02/16/2010 1:14:38 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

LOL

It is the basis by which he will be removed from Office, and likely charges filed against those who certified him as qualified even though they KNEW he wasn’t as those bills clearly display.

Their only prayer is a Presidential Pardon from whom ever it is that assumes the office.

Obama is an Usurper.


926 posted on 02/16/2010 1:15:51 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

Okay, we’ll see.


927 posted on 02/16/2010 1:16:48 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

Bugs: Ya shouldnta said, "Natural Born Citizen", Daffy ... We're gonna have Elmer paste you !!!

928 posted on 02/16/2010 1:18:38 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: EnderWiggins

an illegal entry enters a horse race, after the race is finished, the horse is found out to be ineligible.
The results are then forfeited and damages are collected.
The trust that the people relied upon for a fair and equal race, have been denied.

remember this, The bigger issue is that the 20th Amendment was not adhered to;

Amendment 20 - Presidential, Congressional Terms. Ratified 1/23/1933.

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify...

Note; the ‘President elect shall failed to qualify’

After the DNC nomination, prior to and after the General election, and again prior to and after the electorial college, challenges were raised to the courts, representitives, senators, and cases filed, that the citizens of the United States challenged the eligibilty and qualifications of the candidate, President elect Barack Hussein Obama, all the above failed in their sworn duty as elected officials, judicial representitives and with a complacent media allowed an undocumented illegal and unvetted British subject free reign over the citizens and law of the United States.


929 posted on 02/16/2010 1:19:43 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959

Or not.


930 posted on 02/16/2010 1:22:41 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins
GiggyPuff; Here's some French to read. YOU might need a dictionary.
931 posted on 02/16/2010 1:27:11 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

> Obama is eligible.

Prove it.


932 posted on 02/16/2010 1:39:33 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
"Prove it."


933 posted on 02/16/2010 1:47:00 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

That just proves he got sworn in twice and the second time with out his hand on a bible.


934 posted on 02/16/2010 1:49:14 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

And yet... he’s the President and you’re a guy posting on a blog.


935 posted on 02/16/2010 1:51:13 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

an illegal entry enters a horse race, after the race is finished, the horse is found out to be ineligible.
The results are then forfeited and damages are collected.
The trust that the people relied upon for a fair and equal race, have been denied.

remember this, The bigger issue is that the 20th Amendment was not adhered to;

Amendment 20 - Presidential, Congressional Terms. Ratified 1/23/1933.

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify...

Note; the ‘President elect shall failed to qualify’

After the DNC nomination, prior to and after the General election, and again prior to and after the electorial college, challenges were raised to the courts, representitives, senators, and cases filed, that the citizens of the United States challenged the eligibilty and qualifications of the candidate, President elect Barack Hussein Obama, all the above failed in their sworn duty as elected officials, judicial representitives and with a complacent media allowed an undocumented illegal and unvetted British subject free reign over the citizens and law of the United States.

Do you ever get tired of pawning yourself off, attempting to defend an illegal undocumented alien, living off everyone else, while he refuses to defend himself?

Why doesn’t the muslim in fraud, prove himself.


936 posted on 02/16/2010 1:52:09 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

Better break out that prayer rug - giggles.

Time to lower yourself again to your foreign bowing master.

The Obot Creed

I believe in Barack Obama, the bearer of Hope and Change

And in his rhetoric, and tales of woe

Who was born of the mother Stanley, in a place unknown

In the sixth year migrated to Indonesia

He ascended to the Senate, and unqualified, usurped the Presidency

Who suffered under Orly Taitz and was slurred by racist birthers

I believe in spreading the wealth

Of the taxes and levies therein,

the loss of freedom, that cost doesn’t matter

That healthcare is free

As long as I don’t have pay


937 posted on 02/16/2010 1:54:19 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959
"Do you ever get tired of pawning yourself off, attempting to defend an illegal undocumented alien, living off everyone else, while he refuses to defend himself?"

I couldn't tell you.

"Why doesn’t the muslim in fraud, prove himself."

Napoleon answered that question 200 years ago.

"Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake."
938 posted on 02/16/2010 1:56:56 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

You can’t get anything right can you?

ROFL

1) Girl
2) I do more than post on the internet. I am also an author and I publish
3) YOU are just a guy on the internet.


939 posted on 02/16/2010 2:06:25 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: EnderWiggins

your ranting and rambling attempts to legalize someone who refuses to legalize himself is self evident.

As for not telling, you speak volumes in nothing.

We don’t interrupt fools, if we did, you wouldn’t be able to type, we know you can’t speak English or French.


940 posted on 02/16/2010 2:46:22 PM PST by syc1959
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