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Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.
nobarack08 | Feb 12, 2010 | syc1959

Posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959

Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.

Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.

The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.

Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barack; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; illegal; nativeborncitizen; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; undocumented
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To: EnderWiggins

read my blog. I tear apart the COLB forgery.


101 posted on 02/12/2010 2:28:03 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

Thanks for joining in 2010.


102 posted on 02/12/2010 2:28:48 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: syc1959
"Born in Hawaii to a foreign daddy?"

Yep. And that makes him a natural born citizen.
103 posted on 02/12/2010 2:28:51 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: bvw

The same exact person that did so for every single previous President.


104 posted on 02/12/2010 2:29:28 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

You still haven’t absorbed the Grandfather Clause:

“...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution...”

The U.S. Constitution was adopted in 1787. ANYONE who was a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the U.S. Constitution was allowed to be President. Jefferson fell under the Grandfather Clause. Obama, however, doesn’t fall under the Grandfather Clause unless he is over 200 years old. He might be, though, because we have yet to see his long-form birth certificate.

:^)

Cheers

Cheers


105 posted on 02/12/2010 2:29:38 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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To: syc1959
"What better way to prosecute Barack Hussein Obama for treason, fraud, criminal fraud, and a host of other charges, then demnanding he produce the evidence against himself."

Well... ignoring that that would be violation of the 5th Amendment, who needs to go through all that trouble? You said you had evidence the COLB was forged. Great!!

File a criminal complaint against the Hawaii DOH for fraud and get it over with.
106 posted on 02/12/2010 2:31:54 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

nope that makes him a foreigner, based on the founding fathers


107 posted on 02/12/2010 2:31:55 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

fifth amendment does not apply in this case, where the individual falsely presented himself


108 posted on 02/12/2010 2:32:54 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959

Then why haven’t you filed a criminal complaint yet? You must not have much confidence in your evidence.


109 posted on 02/12/2010 2:33:01 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: Lumper20

Somebody has to.


110 posted on 02/12/2010 2:33:18 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

You are correct. The parent’s citizenship is not on the long form:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

Cheers


111 posted on 02/12/2010 2:33:20 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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To: syc1959
"nope that makes him a foreigner, based on the founding fathers"

You keep saying that. But when are you actually going to get around to showing it?
112 posted on 02/12/2010 2:34:17 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: syc1959
"fifth amendment does not apply in this case, where the individual falsely presented himself"

Gosh. Who knew the Constitution was optional... at least in your universe.
113 posted on 02/12/2010 2:35:20 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

I don’t have to prove anything. Barack Hussein Obama already admitted it.


114 posted on 02/12/2010 2:35:29 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

I’m a racist, eh? You know what they say about those who pull out the race card. Oh, maybe you don’t since you are another troll. And an arrogant asshat to boot.


115 posted on 02/12/2010 2:35:32 PM PST by battletank
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To: syc1959

Admitted what?


116 posted on 02/12/2010 2:36:16 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

Barack Hussein Obama doesn’t need to take the fifth, he has already stated his case and provided the evidence that he is a foreigner.


117 posted on 02/12/2010 2:37:28 PM PST by syc1959
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To: battletank

You are posting to the wrong guy. I have never called anybody “racist” on this entire forum, or even used the word “racist” in this thread unless it was in a quotation.


118 posted on 02/12/2010 2:37:45 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”


119 posted on 02/12/2010 2:38:03 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959
He has never admitted he is a foreigner. Please... stop making stuff up.

His web site (not him) admitted he was a dual citizen (not a foreigner).

For somewone who is so hepped up on language, you sure get sloppy some times with yours.
120 posted on 02/12/2010 2:39:43 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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