Getting a wee bit desperate there wiggie.
Posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959
Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.
Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.
The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.
Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'
Getting a wee bit desperate there wiggie.
Makes putting up with all of the trolls and obots worth it!
Outstanding post Ender.
You are An American subject?
Who is your King?
“I will take your timidity as a complete concession of the point. “
There was no point.
bbBBWwwwaaahhhhaahaaa...trolls of a feather...
“On another note, Are you trying to tell people what a Natural Born Citizen “IS” or what a Natural Born Citizen “IS NOT”
Just curious.”
Still curious.
Did it ever occur to you that people might disagree with you on an issue without being trolls?
Of course, but not that poster.
There is a group of 5 unrelated children. Each of them has one parent who is a plumber, and another who is not,Are they the children of a plumber? Or are they the children of plumbers?
Each is a child of a plumber however since each child has a parent that is not a plumber, it would be inaccurate to say that they are the children of Plumbers since one of their parents of each child is not a plumber.
They are however children of their parents.
Everything the Lord does serves many purposes... and even those working against His will often turn out to be serving His will, albeit not of their own accord.
I swear, you are all doing an incredible job and I will humbly admit I am not fit to read everything you all are writing and posting, what to speak of understanding it all.
But I get the general gist of it, and the deceit and venom and duplicity of the 0-suckers is obvious even to the dull witted.
I have no doubt that many are learning from all this work.
| Look... the whole NBC redefinition issue is already dead. That one already got to the Supreme Court and was refused consideration on its merits. Negative. It was "dismissed" without comment, and most likely because proper Legal Standing wasn't shown and the case was likely deemed too political for the SCOTUS to take on, just as Gordon predicted in his 1968 essay. I have been telling people for almost two years (first Phil Berg, then Leo Donofrio, then Orly Taitz, then Mario Apuzzo) that if any genuine evidence existed that the Obama COLB was a forgery then a criminal complaint against the Hawaii DOH ... First of all, some have in the past have attempted ... it's just not be made public. Other people are working a different angle currently. In December 2008, it came very close to a head from the Arizona AG, but that was shut down too likely because of “Federal intervention” to "protect" the office of the President. The "political will" wasn't there when the first African-American President's approval was near 70 percent. What a difference a year makes. However, the Birth Certificate is a totally different issue. Let's not muddy the waters with that side of the Eligibility debate. Orly pursues that argument, while Leo (and Pidgeon) is interested in Obama’s status as a British Subject. The definition of “Natural Born Citizen” is part of that argument. For the record, the nation would been having this Constitutional crisis had McCain won. I would have been against McCain's Eligibility too as he was NOT born in the Panama Canal Zone (a land lease anyway), or as Gabriel J. Chin says “11 months and a hundred yards short of [Natural Born] Citizenship”. As you and I both know, the Constitution does NOT define “Natural Born Citizen”. The answer lies primarily in Original Intent. If McCain or Bobby Jindal runs in 2012, we'll be having this debate in two years, and the After-Birther will become the Birthers — how ironic. With the GOP likely taking the House and maybe even the Senate in 2010 and public disgust with Obama piquing, how would EnderWiggins recommend this long-running Constitutional question be resolved? |
I personally believe that trolls have a higher IQ level the Obama supporters.
You can tell by the Obot’s repeated post, how upset they get when someone questions their daddy.
We already knew...
What we asked for...
evidence for our claim...
Who is WE?
Omg, I actually agree with you on something.
If Barry was applying for a position of executive chef at the White House, would he pass a Yankee White?
Either the royal “We” or perhaps Wiggie and Rahmie.
You are not "dull witted" and neither are the American People.
American's of good heart and a little common sense get 'the deceit, and venom, and duplicity, of the 0-suckers' -- in spite of all the subterfuge of his paid apologists.
STE=Q
Insightful post.
You must have had to plug your brain into an extension cord to power that one. Better put your head in a bucket of ice water so that brain doesn't over heat, 7 minutes should cool it off.
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