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Do Convicted Felons Deserve a Second Chance? Obama Thinks So.
Liberty and Pride ^ | January 27, 2010 | CSD

Posted on 02/11/2010 5:39:08 PM PST by csd

Should convicted felons be given a second chance? Barack Obama thinks so, and he thinks the tax payers should have to foot the bill. He made his view on this issue more than evident during a town hall meeting in Elyria, Ohio on January 22nd. Here is a excerpt from this Ohio town hall meeting, where a 29 year old felon who has never had a job in his life asks Obama if he will help felons get a job:

Jerome the felon asks Obama: “I’m 29 years old, and I’ve never had a job in my life. I went to jail when I was younger. It’s like hard to get a job as a felon. Is this — any programs that hire people with felonies like something that — because it’s sad, it’s like — 29 years old, I’m 29.”

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: felons; obama; taxpayers
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To: driftdiver

Sorry I misunderstood what you where saying about your charges. I had a DUI as well, and it was a real pain to get everything straight.

p.s. Sorry I sent a link to you because I thought you were asking for a citation from me, these forums can get a little confusing at times. I didn’t realize you were talking to someone else. My apologies


41 posted on 02/11/2010 6:13:56 PM PST by csd (CSD)
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To: driftdiver

These days defending yourself is a far worse crime than assaulting someone. Sad story about the moon-er.


42 posted on 02/11/2010 6:14:22 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: cripplecreek
The change in the way prison inmates are counted in the census appears to be a race thing as well.

Tell me a bit more. I don't know much about this.

43 posted on 02/11/2010 6:15:15 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

LOL I had a feeling you would ask.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2449029/posts


44 posted on 02/11/2010 6:15:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: csd; Michael Barnes

From that link “to take the tens of billions of dollars we pay banks to act as middlemen on student loans and invest that money in students who actually need it. We don’t need the middlemen — cut them out”

I’m not able to find the link related to firearm ownership.


45 posted on 02/11/2010 6:20:23 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I thought you were asking for a link from the original post. Sorry


46 posted on 02/11/2010 6:26:04 PM PST by csd (CSD)
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To: driftdiver

I thought you were asking for a link from the original post. Sorry


47 posted on 02/11/2010 6:26:51 PM PST by csd (CSD)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link. The info is complicated... I’m not sure how it will be (ab)used from a first read.


48 posted on 02/11/2010 6:30:45 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: csd
it's a step towards letting felons vote

They would love to absentee ballot every cell block

Who do you think they would vote for?

49 posted on 02/11/2010 6:36:03 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: csd

I have to disagree with most of you on this one. Convicted felons who prove themselves ABSOLUTELY deserve a second chance. To think anything less is just to be a pompous ass. People make mistakes. People even make big mistakes. When they pay their dues, you give them a second chance. To do any less is to be arrogant.


50 posted on 02/11/2010 6:36:07 PM PST by politicalmerc (Let's send the Halfrican back to Africa.)
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To: cripplecreek

I too got a second chance. I think it shouldn’t even be legal to discriminate against a felon except in the area that he/she committed a crime. Obviously you don’t put a thief in charge of money or a pedophile in charge of children. But people inherently deserve a second chance in life. To say anything less is to be arrogant.


51 posted on 02/11/2010 6:38:32 PM PST by politicalmerc (Let's send the Halfrican back to Africa.)
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To: politicalmerc

Clean ex felons seem to make pretty good conservatives.


52 posted on 02/11/2010 6:40:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

I absolutely agree. People who break the law and suffer for it, who learn that they are at fault, learn that they have to make a better life and are CONSERVATIVE. I just hate to hear arrogant conservatives, most of whom are not “without sin” downing people who have made a mistake and OWNED IT. I would put myself in a higher category of life because I understand prison. I’m not proud of it, but I am a better person because of it. High five friend, we did it, survived, and came out better!


53 posted on 02/11/2010 6:47:51 PM PST by politicalmerc (Let's send the Halfrican back to Africa.)
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To: cripplecreek

It took me a third chance. I was having a bit too much fun some years ago, I got arrested for drugs and honorably accepted my fate, TWICE.

I’ve done well the last 15-years and I still hit issues that hold me back. I’m now well educated and some good jobs won’t accept my past. — Bah, I’m doing something now that doesn’t require much education, just a love for it.

I still can’t own fire arm in land where mountain lions live.


54 posted on 02/11/2010 6:50:52 PM PST by ResearchMonkey (Enlightenment© being diagnosed.)
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To: politicalmerc

I actually consider that time to be one of the best things that ever happened to me. Not that I want to repeat it but it took me away from many of my problems, forced me to deal with others, and gave me time to reflect on my life.


55 posted on 02/11/2010 6:50:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: ResearchMonkey
I still can’t own fire arm in land where mountain lions live.

I guess we missed that "unless" in the 2nd amendment.
56 posted on 02/11/2010 6:53:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: politicalmerc

you didn’t read the whole post. I am a convicted felon who has had a second chance, the point of the post was that tax payers should not have to pay for a convicted felons second chance..I am a firm believer in second chances but the felon has to take responsibility for himself, not rely on others to make his life better


57 posted on 02/11/2010 6:54:22 PM PST by csd (CSD)
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To: svcw
Paid property tax?

Then he voted proud.

58 posted on 02/11/2010 7:14:30 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000
No he never voted, he was a felon.
Of all the things that he suffered because he screwed up not voting was the thing that upset him the most. He was politically savvy. Every election was painful. He paid the price for his crime.
He never did own a home but if he did he would have paid property tax.
59 posted on 02/11/2010 7:29:43 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: politicalmerc

While your sentiment is noble, how could felons be given a second chance? Most companies don’t want to hire them, do you think they should be allowed to do that? Would you hire on somebody to work in or around your home and/or kids who had crimes in their history?

For the record I’ve worked with Christian rescue programs and have worked with guys who had been in prison, just pointing out some of the practicalities of the situation.


60 posted on 02/11/2010 7:35:33 PM PST by SeminoleSoldier
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