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It just keeps going over in my mind: "To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers helped by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nation's wealth." . . . From community organizer to President. . .
1 posted on 02/03/2010 9:03:29 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

Yes, he has.

He figures he’ll destroy America in one term and that the rest of the world will love him so much for this that they’ll put him on the global throne.


2 posted on 02/03/2010 9:06:14 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Art in Idaho

No.

It was George Soros.

Obama is just doing what Soros tells him to do.


3 posted on 02/03/2010 9:06:55 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
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To: Art in Idaho
He believes he can bankrupt the country and get away with blaming it on "the previous administration", then claim increasing government regulation of everything is the only solution.

Evil poser.

4 posted on 02/03/2010 9:08:21 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Art in Idaho
Yes, he and all of the other treasonous cohorts must be removed immediately. We cannot wait until the next election cycle.
6 posted on 02/03/2010 9:12:44 PM PST by fourmation599 (Obama: Hope and Change? More like Taxes and Treason!)
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To: Art in Idaho
Creditors may wish to evalulate this section of the 14th Amendment:

4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

7 posted on 02/03/2010 9:25:14 PM PST by Errant
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8 posted on 02/03/2010 9:27:11 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: Art in Idaho

“Is Obama following the Cloward-Piven rule book?

Yes, and he’s been following the Cloward-Piven rule book since he was recruited by Marxist professors and Pakistani illegal aliens at Occidental College in California to move to NYC to complete his undergraduate degree in poli sci at Columbia University.

Obama’s intellectual political mentor at Occidental College in LA from 1979-1981 was Marxist Professor Roger Boesche. Obama’s “guru and controller” while at Columbia University in NYC from 1981-1983 was Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Securty Advisor under Pres. Carter. Brzezinski is currently Pres. Obama’s foreign policy advisor.

In the summer of 1981, before transferring to Columbia Unversty in NYC, Obama traveled to Pakistan on the premise of visiting the families of his Pakastani friends. On this trip, Obama also visited India, Indonesia (to visit his mother), and Kenya (to visit his uncle, brothers, and grandmother). Interestingly, in the summer of 1981 the U.S. State Dept. was not allowing AMERICAN citizens to travel to Pakistan. This didn’t affect Obama because as a citizen of Indonesia he was able to use his Indonesian passport.

At Columbia: Both Obama and 1960s “Weathermen” bomber Ayers admit to attending anti-American rallies that took place at Columbia in the early 1980s. Ayers was studying for his M.Ed in Early Childhood Education at Bank Street College down the street from Columbia University in NYC at the same time Obama was completing his B.A. in Political Science at Columbia University.

In “Dreams From My Father”, Obama reveals that while at Columbia he “went to socialist conferences …in Brooklyn.”

“Then, after transferring to Columbia University two years later, he [Obama] found that “political discussions, the kind that at Occidental had once seemed so intense and purposeful,” took on the flavor of the “socialist conferences” he sometimes attended at New York’s [Columbia’s] Coopers Union.”

In 1984, Obama worked for three months as a community organizer for the New York Public Interest Research Group (NYPIRG), a Ralph Nader offshoot trying “to mobilize minority students at City College of New York, a school famous for hatching four famous Marxist professors (Irving Kristol, Nathan Glazer, Daniel Bell and Irving Howe) who owned or published ultra-leftist magazines like “The New Leader”, “Commentary”, “Dissent”, and “The Public Interest”.

1985 Obama is a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation in Chicago, an organizing institute working throughout the Midwest.

In 1985, Gerald (Jerry) Kellman at Calumet Community Religious Conference in Chicago receives a grant from Bill Ayers at the Woods Fund, a Chicago foundation that gives grants for community organizing, to hire a new community organizer for the organization he heads called the Developing Communities Project (DCP). Later, Ayers and Obama are both on the board of the Woods Fund.

1985-1988 Obama is hired by Gerald Kellman (due to a grant from Ayers at the Woods Foundation) to be the director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a leftist Alinskyite community organizing subsidiary of the Gamaliel Foundation in Chicago which has Marxist Professor and former ACLU Director John L. McKnight as board director.

Professor Mckight mentored Obama while he was at DCP in the the agitation tactics of Alinsky, who wrote the organizing manual, “Rules for Radicals,” which he dedicated to mankind’s “very first radical, Lucifer.” Under McKnight, Obama says he got the “best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School.” (remark in 2007 while campaigning in Iowa). “My views are not so much more refined than they were when I labored in obscurity as a community organizer,” Obama wrote in his 2006 autobiography.

Fall of 1987 Bill Ayers links back up with Obama when they are “working” the same side of the 1987 Teacher’s Union Strike and both attend a Tom Ayers’ Chicago United “lunch meeting in a Chicago skyscraper”.

1987 Bill Ayers solicits Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour (a.k.a. Donald Warden) to raise money for Obama’s Harvard Law School education. al-Mansour is an orthodox Muslim, a black nationalist, an outspoken enemy of Israel, and mentor to Black Panther Party founder Huey Newton and his cohort, Bobby Seale. At the time al-Mansour associate Percy Sutton was raising money for Obama’s education, al-Mansour was the top financial advisor to mega-billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of the Saudi royal family.

1988 The ABCs Coalition is formed and is coordinated by Bill Ayers. Tom Ayers is a key member of ABC. Another member of ABCs was Obama’s Developing Communities Project.
1988 Obama joins racist, America hating Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity Church of Christ in Chicago and one Sunday was brought to tears by Rev. Wright’s “Audacity of Hope” sermon. Wright admittedly became his mentor and spiritual advisor for the next 20 years.

1988 Obama writes an essay entitled, “Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City”. It is published in the August/ September 1988 edition of Illinois Issues which was published by Sangamon State University [now the University of Illinois at Springfield]. In ths essay Obama lays out his plan to politically organize “liberationist” black churches. He saw the black church as a slumbering giant in cities like Chicago.

1988-1991 Obama goes to Harvard Law School. Whenever Obama’s in Chicago “to visit Michelle”, he takes advanced training at the Industrial Areas Foundation in Chicago, a group founded by Alinsky.

1989 Tom Ayers (father to Bill Ayers) gets Obama a summer intern position at the law firm of Sidley & Austin LLP where he is introduced to Michelle Robinson by Ayers’ wife and fellow “Weathermen” bomber, Bernardine Dohrn, who Tom Ayers also got a job there for.

1991 Obama graduates from Harvard, is named as head of the Harvard Review and takes Michelle Robinson home to Kenya to meet his family.

1992 Obama heads Project Vote-Illinois, a subsidiary of ACORN. Afterward, head of ACORN-Chicago, Madeleine Talbot, askes for Obama to train all her lead community organizers in his Alinsky style agitation tactics.

and the rest ....is HISTORY...............

Yes, I DEFINITELY think that U.S. President Obama has adopted the Cloward-Piven Strategy as the official White House policy...

Yep, yep, That IS what I believe.


12 posted on 02/03/2010 10:02:47 PM PST by BIOCHEMKY (I love liberty more than I hate war.)
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To: Art in Idaho

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES


13 posted on 02/03/2010 10:08:14 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: Art in Idaho

Look at it from the other direction and try to name one thing he has done that is beneficial to the economy. I can’t think of anything maybe someone else can.


19 posted on 02/03/2010 10:42:38 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: nutmeg

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21 posted on 02/03/2010 10:55:45 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: Art in Idaho

Weren’t Cloward AND Piven both in the Oval Office for a photograph on Immaculation Day?

I’m pretty sure they were.


25 posted on 02/03/2010 11:27:14 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Bump.


26 posted on 02/03/2010 11:47:28 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Art in Idaho

Yes, and then some..


27 posted on 02/04/2010 1:18:24 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Art in Idaho

It would be interesting to know if Obama was a student of Cloward and/or Piven during his time at Columbia.


29 posted on 02/04/2010 3:28:27 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Yes. This is treason and a de facto declaration of war against us all. To those who say 'the free market failed,' I respond with, "It didn't fail - it was pushed down the stairs."

Then, if they're still listening, I tell them about the history of the CRA, and if they're stil lwith me after that, I tell them about Cloward-Piven.

30 posted on 02/04/2010 6:18:25 AM PST by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Art in Idaho

It’s the only thing he knows and can comprehend. The astonishing thing is that it has worked in his life to the extent that he expects it to just keep on going and have the kind of media environment that made it possible continue to dominate even though it’s day has clearly passed.


31 posted on 02/04/2010 6:24:42 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Art in Idaho

Cloward and Piven’s final victory came on May 20, 1993, when President Clinton signed the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 – commonly called the “Motor-Voter Act.” It ordered every state to provide resources enabling people to register to vote at state agencies, at the same time they applied for drivers’ licenses, welfare, Medicaid and disability benefits.

When President Clinton signed the bill, Cloward and Piven stood behind him, in tacit acknowledgment of their role in formulating the new law. Their work was now done. On June 2000, they dissolved Human SERVE, confident that the juggernaut they had set in motion could no longer be stopped.


37 posted on 02/04/2010 6:15:14 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Art in Idaho

It’s not a case of whether he has adopted Cloward Piven, he is Cloward Piven. The basic tennant of the strategy is to overwhelm the system/shut it down. All of their policies are following that path.


56 posted on 02/05/2010 7:39:23 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Art in Idaho

Short answer is:

DUH!

You bet your ass he is.


57 posted on 02/05/2010 7:39:26 AM PST by Danae (Don't think the Constitution matters? Try living in a country without one.)
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To: Art in Idaho

for later.


61 posted on 02/05/2010 8:40:42 AM PST by matthew fuller (Year II- Barak Sheikh Obama versus The United States of America.)
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