À La Chris Matthews: Obama forgot that he is an Ideologue for an hour

Creating Orwellian Worldview ^ | 2/2/10 | alaphiah

[Alaphiah123]

President Barry Hussein Soetoro went to the House Republican retreat in Baltimore Maryland days after his State of the Union Address to, in essence, deliver the message in no uncertain terms that he expects Republicans to help him push his agenda of changing America from the Constitutionally based Democratic Republic that it presently is, to that of a more European Socialist model.

That, plus the message of; Oh and by the way stop calling me an Ideologue or I won’t let you participate in my government at all. (see transcript)

In the minds of Soetoro sycophants, media and otherwise, this was an attempt by Soetoro to improve relations between he and Republicans. And they believe that this is the president’s attempt to promote true bipartisanship. Wrong!

For all of us who are on the correct side of the looking glass this is—what it is. Democrats ...

[hosepipe]

The U.S. is NOT a democratic republic..
It is a Constitutional Republic..

That being said.. no democracy has ever yet been democratic.. NONE..
For democracy is indeed MOB Rule by mobsters.. in every iteration..
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Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

[YankeeReb]

He doesn’t want to work with Republicans in an equal bipartisan fashion that Democrats demanded of George Bush. He only wants Political cover like the kind that Republicans in name only Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe provides.

This needs to be posted in EVERY republican's congressional office and above Michael Steele's desk. As soon as he gets what he wants Soetoro throws the person unser the bus. Ben Nelson is an example. After he took the bribe, Barry isn't covering his political butt, he couldn't care less as long as his agenda is advanced.

[Alaphiah123]

Hosepipe turn off the drip!

Based on the concepts of “We the people” and “Republican Form of Government” - most people say our form of government is a “Federal Democratic Republic” What is true is the founding fathers wrote that government derives it’s authority from the consent of the governed.

It is also true that what prevents mob rule is the rule of law which is embodied in the U.S. Constitution.

We the people wrote the laws of the Constitution to serve us and to form a union in which we live and follow, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The model which we have chosen is a Representative model or a Republic.

Therefore we are a Democratic Constitutional Republic

I said we are a Constitutionally based Democratic Republic word order may be questionable but in any event you misquoted me and then used a straw-man argument to make your non-point because no matter how you read what I wrote I never said that we were a “The U.S. is NOT a democratic republic..”

You said that.

[hosepipe]

[ Therefore we are a Democratic Constitutional Republic ]

Three words are not found anywhere in the U.S. Constitution.. (ANYWHERE)
1) democratic...
2) democracy....
3) democrat.....

Its by design.. the founders knew these words but stayed away from them by design.. They are BAD words.. Are they trying to tell us something?... or imply something?.. Omitting these words do say something.. What does it say TO YOU?... But a republic is democratic in essence.. But a democracy is not republican in essence.. That may be the message..

Could be that "democrats" are too primitive to get the subtle meaning.. Because you can remove the democrat from the party.. but its damned hard to remove the democrat from the democrat.. MOB mentality is very tribal there may be a MOB culture.. Democrats love the dictatorship of the proletariat.. i.e. Marx/Lenin

[Alaphiah123]

Hosepipe you've got a lot of rhetoric there but one big problem. The preamble of the Constitution, which reads: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. *** The people or the Democracy is government with the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives. I understand what you're attempt to say but your argument is flawed. Here's a subtlety for you; by the words "we the people" Demacracy is implicitly written into the constitution. (however with restraints) You know what the founders feared more than mob rule? Rule by Oligarchy, Monarchy and Theocracy

[hosepipe]

[ Democracy is implicitly written into the constitution. (however with restraints) You know what the founders feared more than mob rule? Rule by Oligarchy, Monarchy and Theocracy ]

All of them including any Democracy are MOB RULE..
A Banana Republic is also a democracy(central gov't) which equals MOB RULE too..

About the ONLY gov't ever invented is the gov't invented by Americas founders.. this unique republic.. Thats why it is so successful..

The only way to defeat America is to make the States mere provinces like in Canada.. with a prevailing central government.. You know, A DEMOCRACY..

[Alaphiah123]

All of them including any Democracy are MOB RULE.. Ah somebody had better pull out their dictionary by defination;Oligarchy, Monarchy and Theocracy are not mob rule. Me thinks the ideologue protest too much!

[hosepipe]

[ Ah somebody had better pull out their dictionary by definition;Oligarchy, Monarchy and Theocracy are not mob rule.

They are exactly Mob Rule.. the only difference is the size of the Mob.. and number of mobsters..

[Alaphiah123]

ahh somebody better pull out their dictionary and look up the definition of mob.

[hosepipe]

[ ahh somebody better pull out their dictionary and look up the definition of mob. ]

When the Mob can charge you taxes for something you already OWN(property)..
You are RENTING "IT" from the government..

Its exactly like the Mafia's Protection Racket(taxes).. to protect you from THEM..

[Alaphiah123]

you’re stretching to fit you ideology Hosepipe. I needn’t remind you that’s what Liberals and Democrats do.

[hosepipe]

[ you’re stretching to fit your ideology. I needn’t remind you that’s what Liberals and Democrats do. ]

You could be shrinking to overlook the obvious..

[Alaphiah123]

Yes I could be, but I’m not. And your definitions could be all correct but they aren’t. You could be open for constructive criticism, but you aren’t.