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Irish Version Of ACLU Says Burglars Have Rights in Your Home When They Invade It
secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com ^ | 01/28/10 | Sasparilla

Posted on 01/28/2010 7:07:33 AM PST by Sasparilla

Now, the Irish are weighing in on the proposed change in British law to expand the right of inhabitants to self defense. Ireland’s version of our ACLU wants to continue giving their burglars their “protected” status. The Irish Council for Civil Liberties said that changing laws to allow householders to have more freedom to fight back against invaders in their homes would lead to more violent burglaries. Current British law doesn’t allow lethal force against home invaders. Today, Irish burglars know that if householders use more than non-lethal steps to stop their home invasions, that the householders will find themselves in prison, with the burglar himself probably getting probation.

The ICCL is against laws that would justify the use of lethal force to prevent someone from “simply” entering their property. They say that the burglars would come prepared to meet violence with violence, as if they aren’t prepared already. The Irish Council for Civil Liberties even said that “Burglars had rights,” and one of those rights was not to be killed. But they also said that burglar’s rights are diminished if the break into a home and are aggressive.

The practical effect is that the householder in Ireland has to wait to see if the home invader is going to be aggressive, or if he is armed. By then it is usually too late to act. If he is just there to steal your TV while you are watching it, then you fear the law if you use force to stop him. The ICCL stated that the Law Reform Commission had gone too far....

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: selfdefense

1 posted on 01/28/2010 7:07:35 AM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

That is officially, and without doubt, crazy and contrary to human nature. They are nuts, demented, insane, moronic, and loopy. And they apparently hold ordinary, law-abiding people in great contempt.


2 posted on 01/28/2010 7:12:00 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Sasparilla

Notice to Irish burglars: Better for you to stay on that side of the pond. We have quaint legalities here, like the Second Amendment and Castle Laws. Our concern for you would end at what type ammo we have loaded - buckshot, or hollow points, preferably.


3 posted on 01/28/2010 7:13:37 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Sasparilla

How long before the “President of the World” decides to do the same here.


4 posted on 01/28/2010 7:19:46 AM PST by TheNewPundit
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To: Sasparilla

btt


5 posted on 01/28/2010 7:21:46 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Sasparilla
Today, Irish burglars know that if householders use more than non-lethal steps to stop their home invasions, that the householders will find themselves in prison, with the burglar himself probably getting probation.

Well, if one is going to go to prison for protecting self and family, one might as well make it worth one's while and kill the bastard(s).

'e tripped, Constable.

6 posted on 01/28/2010 7:24:24 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Sasparilla

I checked with Arlen and it’s actually Scottish Law!


7 posted on 01/28/2010 7:33:33 AM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Sasparilla

I checked with Arlen and it’s actually Scottish Law!


8 posted on 01/28/2010 7:33:39 AM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Sasparilla
Uh, well I'm not certain that we (our elected elites, that is) have no problem with people who "invade our country," move in, demand free educations, health care, home loans, college tuition and scholarship and grant money, oh and let's not forget -- our JOBS!

Invade your home and stay - invade your country and stay, what's the difference???

9 posted on 01/28/2010 7:39:16 AM PST by zerosix (A)
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To: tgusa

In the US, we’re allowed firearms and shovels. If necessary, an American should use one, then the other, and never report what happened. In Scotland/Ireland, with no Second Amendment, they just have the shovel. My suggestion is to use the shovel on the burglar until no longer needed, then use the shovel for its intended purpose, and as in the States, never report what happened.

The only right a burglar has is to choose whether to enter a free man’s home. Once the burglar makes the wrong choice on that decision, all rights belong to the homeowner.


10 posted on 01/28/2010 7:42:14 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Sasparilla

The”elites” who write these laws are sure it’s never going to happen to them and in the off chance that it did, the laws don’t pertain to them.


11 posted on 01/28/2010 7:48:03 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Pollster1

As a Montanan once told me, “Shoot, shovel, shut up.”


12 posted on 01/28/2010 7:52:57 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Sasparilla

Hey, burglars have rights here in the US too..

you have the right to the ~3 seconds for sights on target.
you have the right to a couple pellets of buckshot.


13 posted on 01/28/2010 9:01:27 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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Once you confront a burglar and he does not immediately quit the premises, it is no longer a burglary, but a robbery. A robbery, by definition, entails violence on the part of the perpetrator.

The reason the law defines the crimes of larceny, burglary and robbery is because they are all distinct crimes.

14 posted on 01/28/2010 9:21:49 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts)
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Today, Irish burglars know that if householders use more than non-lethal steps to stop their home invasions, that the householders will find themselves in prison, with the burglar himself probably getting probation.

probation, but still dead.

15 posted on 01/28/2010 2:41:14 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Don't panic, the lunatics are in charge and have everything in hand.)
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