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To: cripplecreek
Ive gotten to know the owners of a small vegetable farm and roadside stand near here.

Might be a good idea. Then again...

I belong to an eclectic group of bikers. Cruisers, sports, dual, conservative, liberal, Christian, Jew, Hindu and agnostic. Our only similarity is that we love to ride together but I count them as some of my best friends. Several weeks ago we were having our usual Thursday night dinner together and the subject turned to survival.

Most of us, the conservative ones, have an ample supply of food and arms. One of the liberals of the group said 'guess I know where to go when the trouble starts'. My response shocked him to speechlessness.

I bluntly told him 'If you come to my house, and you don't bring enough to keep you and your family alive and safe, you had best get used to calling me massa. Because you and yours will be nothing more than a slave while you are there. Your skills as a programmer will mean nothing, your ability to tell interesting stories will mean nothing, your wife's stupid whining will mean nothing. You and your family will mean another mouth to feed and another soul to defend. I don't have the resources or the give a shit to let you take food from the mouths of my family. You will either work as a slave to earn you keep or your will move on.'

At that time all of the 'prepared' people echoed my thoughts while the 'unprepared' were thinking over the prospects. The unprepared begin asking very good questions on how they should proceed to be 'prepared'. If nothing else my statement saved me a possibly awkward moment in the future and may have just saved four other families due to lack of preparedness.

Moral to the story 'Better to be prepared than to be my slave'. Hope the local farmer has a more Christian attitude then I do. Second moral 'Local farmers are great to barter with, make sure you have something he doesn't'.

30 posted on 01/24/2010 8:43:48 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: 11Bush
I've had the same conversation with a couple of friends. Shocked them right good, it did.

Now they're busy as little beavers.

40 posted on 01/24/2010 9:21:15 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: 11Bush

Good story, and no doubt true.

I wonder how many people the country could support if the supply chains broke down... 40 50 60 million?

Even at the high end of 60 million, that means right off we’re talking about 4 out of 5 of the people you know being casualties.

It would be quite a wake up call. I mean we can all put signs around saying “Looters will be shot on sight”, but how do you explain that to the woman down the street when you just put a .308 through her 16 year old son? OR daughter?

Keeping things going and keeping the folks with the skills to build things alive would be the number one priority.
Until the harvests start, because that’s it folks, we are farmers now!


49 posted on 01/24/2010 9:46:41 AM PST by djf (The one thing we know is how much we don't know!)
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To: 11Bush

Hard core, but right on. I hadn’t thought of the slave aspect. I was just gonna shoot ‘em and try the recipe for cooked liberal. : )


51 posted on 01/24/2010 9:58:25 AM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: 11Bush

What a heartwarming story.

I just love when you can get people to actually think.


59 posted on 01/24/2010 10:55:09 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 11Bush

Said the same thing to all of my in-laws.


131 posted on 01/24/2010 5:30:11 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: 11Bush
Your post is crucially important. Some people think that, should the time come, surely anyone who has stores should share with those who didn't prepare.

then no one survives.

Remember the parable of the women with the lamps on the journey to meet the bridegroom. When those who didn't heed advice and carry extra oil and trim their wicks, ran out - they asked those who had prepared, to share.

They were told, sorry, but if we share with you then none of us will make it

another point: Be careful who you let know you HAVE storage. Beside those who may decide to take your food, the gov't already has in place - should the 'need' arise - to call your storage "a hoard" you a "hoarder" and therefore a criminal. They will take your food and give it all those who didn't plan ahead...like themselves

162 posted on 01/25/2010 12:12:43 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: 11Bush
Most of us, the conservative ones, have an ample supply of food and arms. One of the liberals of the group said 'guess I know where to go when the trouble starts'. My response shocked him to speechlessness.

I told one of my liberal acquaintances that I'd shoot him coming up the driveway. Don't even bother. I've been preaching the gospel of preparedness for years. Anybody who hasn't had ears to hear is no problem of mine. Whether I'll actually be able to enforce that, in a day I sincerely pray never comes, I don't even know myself.

225 posted on 01/26/2010 10:25:35 AM PST by nina0113
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