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1 posted on 01/19/2010 8:15:39 PM PST by Shellybenoit
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yup.. Obama tore it apart.


2 posted on 01/19/2010 8:16:48 PM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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Obambi Don't Know Nothin' About Pick Up Trucks! And Americans Who Drive Them!
3 posted on 01/19/2010 8:20:00 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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I love safe-district Steny urging his troops to throw themselves on HIS sword! Dirty Harry will be next, and his herd of cats is even harder to control than Nancy-and-Steny’s. Note to self: buy popcorn futures.


4 posted on 01/19/2010 8:20:09 PM PST by La Lydia
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There will be a Democratic Civil War between liberals in safe seats (although Brown proved that there are no safe seats) who want Obama-Care and moderates in swing seats who want Obama-Care to go away.


5 posted on 01/19/2010 8:22:06 PM PST by Ticonderoga34 (Free Obama's Birth Certificate!)
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divide and conquer..lol this 1994 all over again!


6 posted on 01/19/2010 8:22:18 PM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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There will probably be talk about changing Senate rules. But it will just be talk.


7 posted on 01/19/2010 8:22:37 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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If the Democrats were smart (Hey, I said if!), they would learn the lesson from Scott Brown's victory that Bill Clinton had to lose half the Congress to learn, and start to give respect to the opposition and to govern from the center.

They will still be able to peel off the centrist RINOs and get 99% of their agenda passed. Our defense against that sort of thing is not exactly the New York Jets. But they will have to forgo the pleasure of rubbing the Republican's noses in it and share a little of the credit.

For instance, if they pulled Health Care off the table and re-crafted a bi-partisan bill, they would get everything they wanted in the first place, and would neuter the Republican counterattack. This would allow Obama to maintain more of his overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress.

But they are just not that smart, and their egos are just too big. They can not resist banging the gavel and locking the Republicans out. For that failing, they will suffer mightily in the Fall elections.

9 posted on 01/19/2010 8:23:38 PM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
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Congratulations to Chris Matthews — he finally got it right: “What the election means is that now every Democrat becomes a target. If they can win in Massachusetts, they can win anywhere.”

ex animio
davidfarrar


10 posted on 01/19/2010 8:25:13 PM PST by DavidFarrar (davidfarrar)
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11 posted on 01/19/2010 8:25:19 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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When have those pacifist progressives ever “fought” for anything that they didn’t end up scuttling and pointing fingers, after a good pop in the mouth from conservatives?


13 posted on 01/19/2010 8:26:22 PM PST by rabidralph ("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
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Actually, 51 is the new 60. I think the “civil war” angle is very accurate. There will be many leftwingers that will either want to pare the bill back and ram it through using reconciliation, or they’ll want to go nuclear. There will be other Dems - like Bayh, Webb and Nelson - who will want to be more pragmatic. The question becomes, can Reid find 51 votes.


16 posted on 01/19/2010 8:31:47 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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The only thing that could have made this night any sweeter (other than watching the returns in Rush Limbaughs living room with him) would have been seeing Brown beat Ted Kennedy before he died.


17 posted on 01/19/2010 8:31:59 PM PST by diverteach
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if you think the progressives are going to come this close to just lie down and play dead, you don't understand how important this is to the progressive movement

Just so. Watching Fox tonight, most observers from Willie Brown to Sean Hannity agreed, for different reasons, that Obama will not moderate, but rather "double down"(new fave cliche among the chatterers.) He will bare his steel teeth and demand that Congress bend to his will, even though it will mean a slaughter in November. He doesn't care--he's an ideologue and he's not running till 2012.

The question is whether he can make all those vulnerable careerists put their heads on the chopping block for what is, after all, no more than a huge trillion dollar piece of corrupt crapola. The true believers will, but I have a feeling he will encounter very stiff resistance. It will be interesting, to say the least.

19 posted on 01/19/2010 8:44:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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If the Dems were smart, they would just declare ObamaCare dead for this year and blame the Reps (Scott Brown) for not getting something passed. The only problem is that they have already voted for some version of ObamaCare.


21 posted on 01/19/2010 9:16:43 PM PST by kabar
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