Posted on 01/19/2010 8:15:38 PM PST by Shellybenoit
The election is over and the result that no rational person could have predicted three weeks has happened. Republican Scott Brown is the new Senator from Massachusetts. Many conservatives will tell you that health care and the rest of the Obama agenda is now dead. Many Liberals will tell you that the election mean nothing outside of the Bay State. They are both right and they are both wrong. The election of Scott Brown has implications way beyond Massachusetts, its ripple effects will severely wound the Obama agenda, but progressiveness is alive and well and living in the White House, Senate and House of Representatives.
The magical 60 votes is now 59, making it much harder to get the bill through the Senate. But if you think the progressives are going to come this close to just lie down and play dead, you don't understand how important this is to the progressive movement. And the desperation to get it passed, was reflected in Steny Hoyer's rousing endorsement today, "I think the Senate bill is clearly better than nothing," he said.
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yup.. Obama tore it apart.
I love safe-district Steny urging his troops to throw themselves on HIS sword! Dirty Harry will be next, and his herd of cats is even harder to control than Nancy-and-Steny’s. Note to self: buy popcorn futures.
There will be a Democratic Civil War between liberals in safe seats (although Brown proved that there are no safe seats) who want Obama-Care and moderates in swing seats who want Obama-Care to go away.
divide and conquer..lol this 1994 all over again!
There will probably be talk about changing Senate rules. But it will just be talk.
yup. the safest seat in the union just got unsafed (litle Bush lingo there). =)
They will still be able to peel off the centrist RINOs and get 99% of their agenda passed. Our defense against that sort of thing is not exactly the New York Jets. But they will have to forgo the pleasure of rubbing the Republican's noses in it and share a little of the credit.
For instance, if they pulled Health Care off the table and re-crafted a bi-partisan bill, they would get everything they wanted in the first place, and would neuter the Republican counterattack. This would allow Obama to maintain more of his overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress.
But they are just not that smart, and their egos are just too big. They can not resist banging the gavel and locking the Republicans out. For that failing, they will suffer mightily in the Fall elections.
Congratulations to Chris Matthews — he finally got it right: “What the election means is that now every Democrat becomes a target. If they can win in Massachusetts, they can win anywhere.”
ex animio
davidfarrar
well they may talk about it now.. but a few weeks ago the Dims were all for screwing the rules as they had 60 votes after all. It will be interesting to watch them dissect this egg on their faces.
When have those pacifist progressives ever “fought” for anything that they didn’t end up scuttling and pointing fingers, after a good pop in the mouth from conservatives?
They will be eating each other alive by tomorrow afternoon. It’s already begun. The last one out of the kitchen gets burned.
I think you're right. obama is too much of a narcissist, Reid and Pelosi are too drunk with power and their own perceived self-importance. They're going to keep hammering away. Look for (even more) dirty politics, back room deals, and bending the rules/law to the breaking point. This just means they have to pay-up and pay-off even more (with our money) to try to lure a RINO to their aide.
Actually, 51 is the new 60. I think the “civil war” angle is very accurate. There will be many leftwingers that will either want to pare the bill back and ram it through using reconciliation, or they’ll want to go nuclear. There will be other Dems - like Bayh, Webb and Nelson - who will want to be more pragmatic. The question becomes, can Reid find 51 votes.
The only thing that could have made this night any sweeter (other than watching the returns in Rush Limbaughs living room with him) would have been seeing Brown beat Ted Kennedy before he died.
The question is this. How are we going to repeal the disaster these Communist out of control fanatics will pass?
Just so. Watching Fox tonight, most observers from Willie Brown to Sean Hannity agreed, for different reasons, that Obama will not moderate, but rather "double down"(new fave cliche among the chatterers.) He will bare his steel teeth and demand that Congress bend to his will, even though it will mean a slaughter in November. He doesn't care--he's an ideologue and he's not running till 2012.
The question is whether he can make all those vulnerable careerists put their heads on the chopping block for what is, after all, no more than a huge trillion dollar piece of corrupt crapola. The true believers will, but I have a feeling he will encounter very stiff resistance. It will be interesting, to say the least.
That becomes very, very problamatic. Which of course, is precisely why it's so important to keep them from implementing anything to begin with.
Even if the GOP can take back both houses of Congress, Obama would veto anything that was passed that repealed his biggest initiatives. Then, if we're successful in removing Obama, it would be the Republicans that would have to deal with the Democrat filibusters. These are the reasons that Social Security and Medicare are here, all these decades later.
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