Posted on 12/21/2009 12:08:37 PM PST by annieup
FIRST OF ALL THE WITNESSES ARE NOT A CULT. THAT OPINION WAS FORMED BY SOMEONE THAT OBVIOUSLY FEELS THREATNED BY THE TRUTH.IT AMAZES ME THAT WHENEVER A WITNESS DOES SOMETHING WRONG IT MAKES THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWS! IF A BABTIST OR PROTESTANT DOES SOMETHING WRONG IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR RELIGION. AND THIS BIG COVER UP GARBAGE IS A JOKE. ADMITTEDLY THEY ARE NOT PERFECT NOR CLAIM TO BE. MATT 24:9 SAYS THAT WE WOULD BE OBJECTS OF HATRED ON ACCOUNT OF HIS NAME. WHAT OTHER RELIGION IS HATED ON ACCOUNT OF HIS NAME? ONLY 1 THAT I CAN THINK OF THE WITNESSES PROUDLY GLORIFY JEHOVAHS NAME. ALSO WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED. WE HAVE FREE WILL,GOD DOES NOT WANT ROBOTS, THAT IS WHY HE GAVE ADAM AND EVE FREE WILL. AND WE DO BELIEVE IN JESUS. HE IS GODS SON AND HE DID GIVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS. I ALSO GET A KICK OUT OF THOSE WHO TELL US WHAT WE BELIEVE, ESPECIALLY IF IT ISN'T TRUE. PEOPLE JUST MAKE UP WHAT THEY WANT ABOUT THE WITNESSES AND THE NAIVE ONES BELIEVE IT. IF IT IS TRUE THEN LOOK INTO WHY WE BELIEVE WHAT WE DO. DONT JUST ASSUME TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT THEY TEACH OR BELLIEVE BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION. TALK ABOUT HAVING A MIND OF YOUR OWN!!
You mean the Crypt Keeper? Harold Camping? Nutjob extraordinaire?
Oh, you know of him, eh?
He's got the date plastered on the front page of his website... What was it again that Jesus said about knowing the day and hour? Oh, that's it, he doesn't state the hour... I see. ;-)
Oh, you know of him, eh?
He's got the date plastered on the front page of his website... What was it again that Jesus said about knowing the day and hour? Oh, that's it, he doesn't state the hour... I see. ;-)
Yes I do. But as you said, that’s another discussion.
Just because YOU say it doesn’t make it truth.
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Then get thee to a decent Bible study, one not done by the JW’s!!!
LOL!!
Instead of trying to “save my soul and others”, you should really work on your own.
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SOME of us can multi-task. And we, as Christians, are commanded to refute false teachings such as those by the JW’s and such.
Btw, no one ever responded to the 2 gods question. They won’t either.
no, they won’t. Some other similar groups (this is me not mentioning names) avoid that one as well.
And she is responding to the affection that she feels for these people and not hearing the contradictions she was taught. Emotion is blinding her to Truth.
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Hey E, where have we seen THAT before?
don’t miss that the “witnesses” had their truth delivered by angels too!!!
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More “magic mushrooms”?
Must be noob week for the inmans. What is that 3 or 4 already?
Hum...
Seems oddly familiar...
We, the Trinitarians, who believe in ONE GOD, who is more than powerful enough to take any form he chooses, are the Polytheist who make a liar out of God.
The Jehovah’s Witness with God the father being separate from Christ, who himself is also a deity, a lower case “g” god, as signified by such things as your adding a theoretical “a” to John 1,(The Word was “a” god) are the “Biblical Monotheist”...
Hum...
Okey Dokey...
I am starting to see a pattern her among the various cults...
It also sounds like one of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals., accuse others of exactly what you're doing.
Classical abusive cult behavior, not unlike the how mormons and others treat those on the edge or have left.
The threat of shunning is particularly vicious as applied by JWs. In their own words -
“More than that, we want to hate those who willfully show themselves haters of Jehovah, haters of what is good. …We hate them, not in the sense of wanting to do them harm or wishing them harm but in the sense of avoiding them as we would poison or a poisonous snake, for they can poison us spiritually.”—The Watchtower, June 15, 1980, p. 8
“Godly hate is a powerful protection against wrongdoing… Are we doing that? …Apostates are included among those who show their hatred of Jehovah by revolting against him. Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. …Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work. …a Christian must hate (in the Biblical sense of the word) those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness.”—The Watchtower, October 1, 1993, p. 19
What a sad, sorry, little cult. I will say this: their proofs are rather extensive (and were even back when they used the KJV before compiling a rather creative new version). They are correct in as much as they say that the NT was not extensively explicit on the Trinitarian formula, with the exception of John. John is explicit and that is swept under the Watchtower rug. The Church developed their understanding of these strange and extensive ideas that Jesus taught them but it took a long time for these uneducated and provincial people to get their arms around it all.
Look at the development of the Apostles Creed (ca. 180) to the Nicene Creed and that to the even more explicit Athenasian Creed.
This is the Faith of Christianity; let those who repudiate it at least have the courtesy to jettison their self description of Christian when they jettison Christian belief.
You are right, the JW’s are particularly vicious in this practice. And they miss the whole point. Jesus hung out with sinners. JW’s shun anyone outside their organization. Blind guides. Describes them perfectly.
Indeed - here are other examples of how blind they are:
False Prophetic Dates:
1874: Date for Christ’s “invisible presence,” changed to 1914
1914: End of the world
1915: Replaced 1914 for the end of the world
1918: End of the world, the destruction of churches
1925: End of the world with the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob
1929: “Beth Sarim” House of Princes built in San Diego, deeded to king David and other biblical prophets for their “soon” return upon the earth
1940’s: End of the World would come with the “soon” battle of Armageddon
1975: 6,000-years of human history, the end of the world would come within “months, not years.”
1994: 80-year Generation of 1914 should bring the end of the world, 1995 redefined the word “generation” to be symbolic of general readiness for the end.
One has to laugh. It’s the boy who cried “wolf” and he has devotees that lack any common sense. But the laughter stops when one realizes that they are playing games with peoples eternal lives with God. They deny the souls existence, the very essence of who and what we are, and people believe them. They deny eternal punishment for disobedience thereby damning themselves and others to the hell they deny. What they refuse to see is that actions have consequences and God told us what they are. Denial doesn’t make them cease to exist. And all those who lead others astray will have unimaginable torment for lying to God’s children. I’m surprised that so many risk eternity on a lie when common sense and a good look at what they’re being told would save them.
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