Posted on 12/16/2009 3:44:59 PM PST by Shellybenoit
You would think that during the Holiday Season politicians would try to have the Christmas "Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Man" spirit, but not this year. The fighting going on in the Beltway is totally disgusting. I am not talking about the traditional Democrat vs. Republican Partisanship, no this is all about the brewing Democrat vs. Democrat Civil War.
The anger over the recent dropping of the medicare and public options is real, extreme and very public.
"Insurance companies win," DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas declared Tuesday. "Time to kill this monstrosity coming out of the Senate."
If healthcare reform ultimately crashes and burns which most experts still consider unlikely -- it will ironically stem not from Republican opposition but rather Democrats' inability to stave off an insurgency within their own caucus.
And people are even attacking the POTUS, hinting that its time for him to "Man UP"
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I just don’t ‘get’ the power thing. My power is leave me alone, and that’s more powerful than anything. Perhaps they are threatened by us and our individualism. Anyway, I just don’t get the whole “I’ve got power” thing. I suppose my brain isn’t wired for that. But, my brain is wired for them to LEAVE ME ALONE! And that’s most of America! And that I know the libs fear that. America will not be ruled. We may be slow on our actions, but, once we make a decision, watch out. Look at history. Revolution, Civil, World Wars. We were last to join in, but when we did, it was no holds barred. Obama will NEVER be able to suppress Americans.
Might not be a bad idea, would be easier for them to accept that than becoming birthers...
This is a National Socialists and Fascists vs Corporatists battle with some minor factions holding smaller fiefdoms.
Inside the Socialist camp you have outright racial supremacists bent on population replacement through government oppression, coming from the Hispanic caucus, and healthcare industry unionist leaders who believe they will control a bigger pond and become bigger fish under nationalized industry. Inside the Fascist camp you have politicians who are controlled by one group of Corporatists who believe they can monopolize industry and trade if they control the implementation of Fascism.
The Corporatists have been either outsiders or the losers in the failed negotiations before the civil war, and also the vast numbers of socially liberal small employers who are now seeing the intended implementation of the policies they supported before realizing how detrimental it is to their own carved out privileged position in American society.
As this is occurring, the national debt is spiraling up at a parabolic rate. If a public option and a amnesty both pass in the next year, the country is permanently bankrupt before the nationalized healthcare implementation is fully rolled out anyway, so we're in the end watching pigs at the trough fighting over the last morsels of food the day before they're off to the sausage factory.
I wonder, if the circumstances were the same and Reagan was president, would he have used an iron fist as the democrats are? Or would he have worked with Americans first? Isn’t that what Bush tried to do? Reagan fought Russians, Bush, he didn’t know it, was fighting american commies. Now that we know who the enemy is, we can go into battle prepared. As long as the republican know. If they still want to ‘reach across the aisle’, we’ll smack them down. No more reaching, no more negotiating. The dems wrote the rule book. Bush was too nice, he was playing old school. And poor Bush, he was on the cusp. He was bad no matter what. Now that the new media is bigger than the msm, our next guy will be more effective. Bush was caught inbetween.
Winner!
The unions really wanted a “public option” to bail out their health care plans. Watch out for amendments giving specific benefits for union members hidden in the fine print.
“And people are even attacking the POTUS, hinting that its time for him to “Man UP”
Well, forget THAT....Obaba is far too effeminate to pull that off.
“The unions really wanted a public option to bail out their health care plans. Watch out for amendments giving specific benefits for union members hidden in the fine print.”
No doubt.
A grand explanation. Well said.
Thanks for the ping! You know I love this music, got MSNBC on and the whining is sweet.
You should see them going over the Obama polls, the pain in their faces. And losing the public plan, “How could this happen?”
A conservative friend told me he thinks no Senate bill passes 2009 at all, any bets?
All scams and frauds eventually fall apart...Obama’s fallout will be as meteoric as his rise...just like how a Chicago thug should be treated.
I wonder how long before the DailyKOS starts asking questions about this BC...LOL
I think you’ve got a good point. It is something to look out for.
For all the hype, Dean hasn’t yet secured a single vote to spike this monstrosity - not Burris, Sanders, Feingold etc.
KEEP FIGHTING. Reid is going to try to jamm this through on Christmas Day, believing that most people will be too distracted to care and, worse, in a forgiving spirit.
As far as I am concerned, they only need a framework from which they can hang public option, single payer, lowered medicare age, and abortion funding, later on.
I think Dean is an idiot, above and beyond what I used to think him an idiot for. Can’t he grasp that once the framework is in place, they can tack things on? So what’s he do, he says no to the framework. LOL
If we dodge this bullet completely, I’ll be one happy sucker. And one absolutely astonished one as well.
Could it happen? Well, yes..., it could. And it would happen because more Democrats than Dean were extremely short sighted. Gotta love that possibility.
Now, Now, Olbermann Special Comment right now is classic, Praises Dean, curses Leibermann. I am rooting for the H Deans, the Conyers, the Firedoglake’s, the Olberman's : Kill this bill! Nothing could be sweeter,
Now you call a liberal and tell them to hold the socialist line. Forget hating them, remember the best Christmas present: Complete Democrat disaster.
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Maddow just started , another gloomy face, looks like :(
Hell, if Dean helps deep-six this, he’s a swell guy...
For about ten seconds. :-)
As long as these vermin are breathing, there is a chance.
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