Exhibit A for Huckabee is an idiot.
Posted on 12/16/2009 9:52:42 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
For the sake of brevity - straight to the point (pun intended).
I have thought long about Huckabee's recent interview with Katie Couric. One of the topics that came up was Huckabee's view on same-sex marriage, and it was no accident that it came up. Huckabee's position on the issue of abortion is concrete - he is ardently pro-life. What remained was for him to effectively frame the same-sex marriage debate, and that he did. Quite effectively in fact.
In short, he told Couric that he was pro-traditional marriage, not anti-same sex marriage. He said that it's not that he is against gay marriage, it is that he is for traditional marriage, and that marriage should be between one man and one woman, not one man and one man, one man and two women, etc.
Secondly, he said that once you open the door by redefining marriage (by allowing legal, consenting adult same sex marriage), that there is "no limit" on marriage being redefined again, and that you open the door for allowing marriage to be redefined once again to allow legal, consenting adult polygamous marriage.
Third, he said that it wasn't bigotry and intolerance to not support consenting adult polygamous marriage.
Huckabee has framed this issue in a way that is unwinnable for liberals - and they cannot counter him on this - at least not effectively.
If liberals say that Huckabee is an intolerant bigot, he can say that if he is an intolerant bigot, then they are just as bigoted and just as intolerant as he because they don't support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage. He can say that they are also hypocrites to boot (the label that NO ONE wants) because they support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult same sex marriage, but they don't support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage for the tens of thousands of polygamists in America who do want to get married. He can say that at least he is consistent on the issue of marriage: no to polygamy and no to same sex marriage.
If some bring up the question of polygamous marriage presently being illegal, Huckabee can say that same-sex marriage is presently illegal in the overwhelming majority of places in the U.S. and that at one time it was illegal everywhere in the U.S.
If some bring up polygamous marriage being declared illegal by SCOTUS, then Huckabee can say that if same-sex marriage were declared illegal by SCOTUS that gay activists would never cease in trying to get a future SCOTUS to overturn its ruling in the future.
If liberals say that they are against discrimination and for marriage equality for gays, and that Huckabee is not, then Huckabee can counter by asking why they don't support marriage equality for polygamists and why do they support discrimination against them?
And on and on it would go...
This is an unwinnable situation for liberals, who really went after Huckabee on social issues in the 2008 elections. NO ONE wants to be seen as pro-polygamy. NO ONE. Just ask one of Obama's nominees.
Scalia was correct. We were told that overturning the sodomy laws would never, ever lead to gay activits trying to get same-sex marriage legalized. Look at what has happened. We have also been told that if marriage is redefined to allow consenting adult same sex marriage, that it would never ever be redefined again to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage. Sure.
The same arguments that have been used in the push for same sex marriage can be used in the push for polygamous marriage: Bigotry, intolerance, "marriage equality," discrimination, "marriage is about love" and so on.
The one thing that liberals might say to Huckabee is that the Bible condones polygamy, so why doesn't he? They would be hard pressed, though, to find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus condoned polygamous marriage.
For those who may wonder: Will I support Huckabee in 2012? Here is my list of whom I support in 2012, and in this order: Palin, Jindal, Huckabee.
I want Palin or Jindal, but if I have to settle for Huckabee or Obama then I will take Huckabee. This country can’t handle another four years of Obama as president. He must be defeated in 2012.
Where is the pic of the “Not this Sh*t Again” guy?
Huck is DOA.
Mitt needs to be.
Either one of these doofuses gets the R nod... We get Fauxbama for a second term with a plurality vote of under 40%.
Both of these liberal republicans need GONE from the presidential race.
Too many people will no longer simply vote for “democrat light” if the RNC did not learn this from 2008, there is no hope for the party.
And of course we all held our noses and voted for mcShame. Doesn’t make ANY difference unless you get an actual conservative WITH PRINCIPLES in the WH
Agreed!
If you are tired of RINO’s then you must go for Palin or Jindal before you go for Hunter/Demint.
TOAST..I’d never vote for him.
Nope - I don’t buy it. I’m a social CONSERVATIVE and to use a crude axiom, “I wouldn’t pee on him if he was on fire”
Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe. - Theodore Roosevelt
If he were competent he would of never gave an interview to Couric.
The Huckster is washed up before he even got out of the gate...he should just come out and endorse Sarah and put it all behind him....
Maybe he meant southern Alaska. Now, *that* would be correct.
What do you mean “non issue”??
I’ll be here to remind you....he’s just another smarmy politician....
TOAST
What do you mean “non issue”??
I’ll be here to remind you....he’s just another smarmy politician....
TOAST
The ONLY politically-minded person in this country who isn’t corrupt (or susceptible to being corrupt) is Sarah Palin. Although a decent man, Huckabee is an appeaser and a panderer. He too much “wants to be liked”.. Sound familiar?? Sarah doesn’t care what people think.. She speaks her mind regardless of the consequences and that’s the kind of President this country needs. Palin was a bit shaky during the VP campaign, but the book tours and speaking engagements have brought her full circle. She’s ready for 2012. That is, if Obama doesn’t pull a coup and not leave the WH.
I don’t think Huckabee has locked up these votes in any way. It’s just too early to say this.
Humor me some more. While Palin seems acceptable, Jindal is not. And neither is as conservative as Hunter or DeMint.
You're delusional if you think that. It's not just the latest guy, though he is the proverbial straw breaking the RINO's back. But this latest straw - four dead cops - is on top of a pile that includes Wayne Dumond and WAY more commutations than his predecessors, and WAY more commutations than surrounding states. It fits a pattern, and that pattern is that Huck liked to let violent criminals out of prison.
Full documentation of the clemency process is here; see page 27 for the actual clemency certificate signed by Huckabee. It indicates right on the certificate that it is making Clemmons "immediately" eligible for parole.
May be over for you, but not 99% of other folks.
He let's murderers out to kill again. He's toast.
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