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To: GL of Sector 2814; John Leland 1789; Gordon Greene
We hear repeatedly on FR that Catholics are not really Christian and that they do not represent the conservative values of the FR community. We are often characterized as evo-atheists, papists, and worse. A simple search of Creation posts will easily reveal the insults and the insulters. The conservative credentials of Catholics and the contributions of Catholics to the revolution can best be summarized by Charles Carroll, the only Catholic signer of the Declaration of Independence;

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

It is important to note that at the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence Catholics could not hold office, exercise the franchise, educate their children in their faith, or worship in public in the colonies by edict of the Protestant Parliament and assemblies. I get a sense that many on FR would love to return to that state.

73 posted on 12/05/2009 9:17:38 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law; John Leland 1789; Gordon Greene; CottShop; count-your-change
It is important to note that at the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence Catholics could not hold office, exercise the franchise, educate their children in their faith, or worship in public in the colonies by edict of the Protestant Parliament and assemblies. I get a sense that many on FR would love to return to that state.

Shall we bring up Catholic Church history and practices in other heavily Catholic countries around the world even today, if you're going to go that route?

91 posted on 12/05/2009 11:30:54 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law; GL of Sector 2814; John Leland 1789; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; metmom; betty boop

“We hear repeatedly on FR that Catholics are not really Christian and that they do not represent the conservative values of the FR community.”

Not from me. I don’t know what this thing is you have about Catholics. There is nothing in my writing that confronts Catholics, only what I believe and what I believe about our country and its founders.

You have a problem... this is part of the chaos thing I was talking about. You are the incarnation of ACORN for the Evo community... you’re trying to drive a wedge and it’s your entire purpose.

You willfully and purposely take every comment out of context then try to interject some Catholic bias into nearly every post. I can’t imagine you would be that dense so I have to assume you are determined to cause division.

If no one else is gonna call it, I’ll call it; you’re a troll.

It is my personal opinion this site would be a better place if you’d take your biases and go back to DU where you can preach your division with a grand reception. You might seem moderately intelligent among that crowd but here you’re just a squeaky wheel.


103 posted on 12/05/2009 12:16:32 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
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