“Would it not be fair to simply point out that while most of the Founding Fathers were Christians some of them were Deists and Unitarians?”
Would it not be fair to point out the entire body of statements of the founders relating to God, the importance of the scriptures and Christianity in the founding of our country instead of cherry-picking from their words and others words about them?
Would it not be fair to point out the stated beliefs of the owner of freerepublic when asking that the atheists and evolutionists that post on this site be respectful of the same?
I’m not asking anyone to change their beliefs. I just think it would be nice if the Evos and Atheists were respectful of Christians while on this site. I don’t go to DU and slam you guys.
This post epitomizes your misunderstanding of those who do not completely agree with you. Catholics believe in Theistic Evolution, commonly referred to Intelligent Design, in which God used the process of evolution that He created to raise man. You contend that this in somehow anti or unChristian. As long as you and others take that position you can expect a hearty and sometime bumpy opposition here on FR.
I readily acknowledge the influence that Christianity and the scriptures had on the founding of the country, but that doesn't take away from the fact that many of the more prominent Founding Fathers were influenced by Deism and Unitarianism. Isn't that fair?
Would it not be fair to point out the stated beliefs of the owner of freerepublic when asking that the atheists and evolutionists that post on this site be respectful of the same?
I would submit that a vigorous debate on the existence of God or the validity of evolution is not disrespectful. How does my pointing out that I have no belief in God or listing evidence of evolution show disrespect? I will agree that there are those on both sides of the debate who are disrespectful, of course, but that doesn't mean that we can't have a civil discussion.
I’m not asking anyone to change their beliefs.
I think it should be pointed out that there are many Christians who are telling people that they need to do just that. Isn't it a Christian calling to convert people?
I just think it would be nice if the Evos and Atheists were respectful of Christians while on this site. I don’t go to DU and slam you guys.
I will agree that "Evos" (an odd term...do you label one believes in plate tectonics a "Tecy"?) and atheists should be respectful of Christians while on (or off, for that matter) this site...with the caveat that if a Christian insults me without cause (as has happened before) I should feel free to throw it back in his face.
Do you agree that Christians should be respectful of Evos and atheists?
LOL! Yeah. Just because, in the very title of this thread, you branded them all as "Idiots," doesn't mean you can't also (smarmily) ask them to be "respectful."
“Would it not be fair to point out the entire body of statements of the founders relating to God, the importance of the scriptures and Christianity in the founding of our country instead of cherry-picking from their words and others words about them?”
Do you realize that the statements of the Founding fathers on Christianity, God, faith, the Scriptures, etc., actually comprises an actually library of material; there’s so much of it.
I just turned around and grabbed one of many books on the subject on my own shelves:
THE CHRISTIAN LIFE AND CHARACTER OF THE CIVIL INSTITUTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES by Benjamin F. Morris — 1864(!!)
This book alone is 1,060 pages long. It is page after page of the writings of the founders and national leaders all the way to the Civil War period. It includes personal letters and journal entries on their faith and importance of Christianity to the American nation.
I’m just turning pages here. There are writings on the subject by James Otis of Mass., Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry, John Hancock, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, so many more, John Witherspoon, Benjamin Franklin, many more.
There is a long article here . . .
A Lecture on the Providence of God in the Government of the World -—Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, Gouverneur Morris, many more, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, many more, James Madison, James Monroe, George Washington.
My point is, once we get quoting and writing, the documentation is so very abundant.
There is an organization that has compiled a huge library of documentation-—
The Foundation for American Christian Education (FACE) in Chesapeake, VA. You can google that.
Another organization that has amassed tons of documents on this subject-—
Wallbuilders.
All the time I was growing up people told me that George Washington was a Deist. I believed that unil 1982 when we began home schooling our children and designing our own curriculum. In 1982, in an obscure used book shop, I found a copy of the . . .
PRAYERS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON. Prayers penned doen by Washington himself.
The book, from page to page inokes the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and speaks of Jesus’ Blood being necessary for the redemption of his soul. In these prayers, Washington confesses his own sins and begs God’s forgiveness by Christ. He thanks God for His providence and for INTERVENING in his life and in the affairs of the Nation. These are not the words of a Deist.
Were there Deists and Unitarians there. Sure. But they showed no disdain for Christianity and respected its aderants, recognizing its stabilizing qualities in believers and the benefit that had upon the new Nation.
” I just think it would be nice if the Evos and Atheists were respectful of Christians while on this site. “
I’m an “evo” (to use your silly term) and a Christian. Should I be conflicted?