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To: Gordon Greene

“Would it not be fair to point out the entire body of statements of the founders relating to God, the importance of the scriptures and Christianity in the founding of our country instead of cherry-picking from their words and others words about them?”


Not meaning to but in here.

Do you realize that the statements of the Founding fathers on Christianity, God, faith, the Scriptures, etc., actually comprises an actually library of material; there’s so much of it.

I just turned around and grabbed one of many books on the subject on my own shelves:

THE CHRISTIAN LIFE AND CHARACTER OF THE CIVIL INSTITUTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES by Benjamin F. Morris — 1864(!!)

This book alone is 1,060 pages long. It is page after page of the writings of the founders and national leaders all the way to the Civil War period. It includes personal letters and journal entries on their faith and importance of Christianity to the American nation.

I’m just turning pages here. There are writings on the subject by James Otis of Mass., Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry, John Hancock, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, so many more, John Witherspoon, Benjamin Franklin, many more.

There is a long article here . . .

A Lecture on the Providence of God in the Government of the World -—Benjamin Franklin

Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, Gouverneur Morris, many more, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, many more, James Madison, James Monroe, George Washington.

My point is, once we get quoting and writing, the documentation is so very abundant.

There is an organization that has compiled a huge library of documentation-—

The Foundation for American Christian Education (FACE) in Chesapeake, VA. You can google that.

Another organization that has amassed tons of documents on this subject-—

Wallbuilders.

All the time I was growing up people told me that George Washington was a Deist. I believed that unil 1982 when we began home schooling our children and designing our own curriculum. In 1982, in an obscure used book shop, I found a copy of the . . .

PRAYERS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON. Prayers penned doen by Washington himself.

The book, from page to page inokes the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and speaks of Jesus’ Blood being necessary for the redemption of his soul. In these prayers, Washington confesses his own sins and begs God’s forgiveness by Christ. He thanks God for His providence and for INTERVENING in his life and in the affairs of the Nation. These are not the words of a Deist.

Were there Deists and Unitarians there. Sure. But they showed no disdain for Christianity and respected its aderants, recognizing its stabilizing qualities in believers and the benefit that had upon the new Nation.


58 posted on 12/05/2009 8:24:53 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: John Leland 1789
Were there Deists and Unitarians there. Sure. But they showed no disdain for Christianity

(cough)Thomas Paine...

59 posted on 12/05/2009 8:33:50 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: John Leland 1789; GodGunsGuts; metmom; Fichori; ColdWater; Natural Law; YHAOS; betty boop; ...

Wonderful post so I’ve taken the liberty to repost and copy to others... thank you.

““Would it not be fair to point out the entire body of statements of the founders relating to God, the importance of the scriptures and Christianity in the founding of our country instead of cherry-picking from their words and others words about them?”


Not meaning to but in here.

Do you realize that the statements of the Founding fathers on Christianity, God, faith, the Scriptures, etc., actually comprises an actually library of material; there’s so much of it.

I just turned around and grabbed one of many books on the subject on my own shelves:

THE CHRISTIAN LIFE AND CHARACTER OF THE CIVIL INSTITUTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES by Benjamin F. Morris — 1864(!!)

This book alone is 1,060 pages long. It is page after page of the writings of the founders and national leaders all the way to the Civil War period. It includes personal letters and journal entries on their faith and importance of Christianity to the American nation.

I’m just turning pages here. There are writings on the subject by James Otis of Mass., Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry, John Hancock, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, so many more, John Witherspoon, Benjamin Franklin, many more.

There is a long article here . . .

A Lecture on the Providence of God in the Government of the World -—Benjamin Franklin

Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, Gouverneur Morris, many more, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, many more, James Madison, James Monroe, George Washington.

My point is, once we get quoting and writing, the documentation is so very abundant.

There is an organization that has compiled a huge library of documentation-—

The Foundation for American Christian Education (FACE) in Chesapeake, VA. You can google that.

Another organization that has amassed tons of documents on this subject-—

Wallbuilders.

All the time I was growing up people told me that George Washington was a Deist. I believed that unil 1982 when we began home schooling our children and designing our own curriculum. In 1982, in an obscure used book shop, I found a copy of the . . .

PRAYERS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON. Prayers penned doen by Washington himself.

The book, from page to page inokes the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and speaks of Jesus’ Blood being necessary for the redemption of his soul. In these prayers, Washington confesses his own sins and begs God’s forgiveness by Christ. He thanks God for His providence and for INTERVENING in his life and in the affairs of the Nation. These are not the words of a Deist.

Were there Deists and Unitarians there. Sure. But they showed no disdain for Christianity and respected its aderants, recognizing its stabilizing qualities in believers and the benefit that had upon the new Nation.”


60 posted on 12/05/2009 8:46:33 AM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
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