"Global Warming" SCAM - Hack/Leak FLASH in forum [Ticker]

TickerForum ^ | Nov. 21, 2009 | (various)

[grey_whiskers]

Ok.... Who is Tim Mitchell? Did he die or something? There's a very disturbing "HARRY_READ_ME.txt" file in documents that APPEARS to be somebody trying to fit existing results to data and much of it is about the code that's here. I think there's something very very wrong here...

This file is 15,000 lines of comments, much of it copy/pastes of code or output by somebody (who's harry?) trying to make sense of it all....

Here's two particularly interesting bits, one from early in the file and one from way down:

Quote:

7. Removed 4-line header from a couple of .glo files and loaded them into
Matlab. Reshaped to 360r x 720c and plotted; looks OK for global temp
(anomalies) data. Deduce that .glo files, after the header, contain data
taken row-by-row starting with the Northernmost, and presented as '8E12.4'.
The grid is from -180 to +180 rather than 0 to 360.
This should allow us to deduce the meaning of the co-ordinate pairs used to
describe each cell in a .grim file (we know the first number is the lon or
column, the second the lat or row - but which way up are the latitudes? And
where do the longitudes break?
There is another problem: the values are anomalies, wheras the 'public'
.grim files are actual values. So Tim's explanations (in _READ_ME.txt) are
incorrect..

8. Had a hunt and found an identically-named temperature database file which
did include normals lines at the start of every station. How handy - naming
two different files with exactly the same name and relying on their location
to differentiate! Aaarrgghh!! Re-ran anomdtb:

Uhm... So they don't even KNOW WHAT THE ****ING DATA MEANS?!?!?!?!

What dumbass names **** that way?!

Talk about cluster****. This whole file is a HUGE ASS example of it. If they deal with data this way, there's no ****ing wonder they've lost **** along they way. This is just unbelievable.

And it's not just one instance of not knowing what the hell is going on either:

Quote:

The deduction so far is that the DTR-derived CLD is waaay off. The DTR looks OK, well
OK in the sense that it doesn;t have prominent bands! So it's either the factors and
offsets from the regression, or the way they've been applied in dtr2cld.

Well, dtr2cld is not the world's most complicated program. Wheras cloudreg is, and I
immediately found a mistake! Scanning forward to 1951 was done with a loop that, for
completely unfathomable reasons, didn't include months! So we read 50 grids instead
of 600!!! That may have had something to do with it. I also noticed, as I was correcting
THAT, that I reopened the DTR and CLD data files when I should have been opening the
bloody station files!! I can only assume that I was being interrupted continually when
I was writing this thing. Running with those bits fixed improved matters somewhat,
though now there's a problem in that one 5-degree band (10S to 5S) has no stations! This
will be due to low station counts in that region, plus removal of duplicate values.

I've only actually read about 1000 lines of this, but started skipping through it to see if it was all like that when I found that second quote above somewhere way down in the file....

CLUSTER.... ****. This isn't science, it's gradeschool for people with big data sets.

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Last modified: 2009-11-21 01:43:45 by asimov

2009-11-21 01:42:56

[XHogPilot]

bump

[thouworm]

Nearly too surreal to be believed, isn't it.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I believe Treaties must be approved by the US Senate....

The last roadblock...to takeover?

[arthurus]

This Senate is going to be a roadblock to Hussein’s treaties??

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.

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[PapaBear3625]

I'm guessing here that these bozos got some climate science graduate students with minimal programming experience to do all of their coding for them instead of hiring professionally trained programmers and database managers. The students were smart enough, however, to cover their ass by making a list of all the mistakes that have accumulated both unintenionally and intentionally in the programs and data files.

My experience in academia was that professors preferred working on the cheap, using free student labor in exchange for good "project" grades. I was a student software developer working on a grant for statistical analysis of software reliability for the Air Force. Based on what I saw, the professor did a song and dance and pocketed most of the grant money.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

If it isn’t.....then what?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

You would think with all of the money flowing out of government grants they could have bought more professional help to do things like revision control,...etc...that truly shows how poorly managed they scam was in the back room...

Perhaps they tried and no one would touch it?

I mean Soros must know some real professionals that are not squeamish about small things like massaging a data base ?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Maybe the top level SCAM artists (Gore, Soros,etc ) got scammed by the low level scam artist scientists....

ROFL!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See #28 and #29.

[editor-surveyor]

The breeze is blowing the smoke away. (it was coming from a smoke machine, not a fire!)

[dila813]

I think the Healthcare Bill is a test, if they can get that past, they can get anything past.

They will break senator’s kneecaps if they have to.

[Windflier]

I believe Treaties must be approved by the US Senate.... The last roadblock...to takeover?

In the end, all laws and formal constructs of governance are simply agreements held by groups of people acting in their own best interests.

When those appointed by the group to carry out and administer their governance abuse that power too broadly, the core agreement breaks down and you get revolution.

Real power always rests with the people - even those who've allowed themselves to become controlled by their elites to the depths of actual enslavement. The people can always revolt. They may die in the attempt, but they ultimately hold the power over the direction of the culture, as a whole.

The Obama regime can pass all the laws and edicts they want, and sign any treaties they want to, but there's no guarantee that the people will allow any of it to stick. They have to agree to allow the enforcement of any new laws or agreements made on their behalf.

We shall see how agreeable the American people are to all of Obama's radical re-engineering of our established order.

[PapaBear3625]

Maybe the top level SCAM artists (Gore, Soros,etc ) got scammed by the low level scam artist scientists....

I would not be surprised. The low level scientists knew they would wind up being the suckers left holding the bag, with no reputations left. This would give them an incentive to cut corners and pocket as much of the grant amounts as they could. The problem with hiring crooks, is that they are crooks. Somebody who has no problem with high-level crimes will not hesitate to perform other forms of dishonesty.

[arthurus]

How much ammo do you have? Do you have food laid up?

[Marine_Uncle]

"I believe Treaties must be approved by the US Senate.... The last roadblock...to takeover?"
Perhaps it is not to far off when we will start to get a good breakdown as to who in the Senate is waking up and on the side of caution in this matter.

[Marine_Uncle]

Soros as well as most of the other supporters of the global warming scam do not sit in the labs and offices watching what these hacks are doing. They depend on the university and government entities to put the right people in place to carry out their bidding.
But let us not become confused. They where adjusting the data to favor a global warming conditions. They could have had the best code revision software in the world but it would mean nothing.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Landru]

Thanks for the ping, Earnest.
To say this thread's been a fascinating read, comments included, is a gross understatement.

FBD: Start at the top & read to the bottom. ;^)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Check this thread ...and the Youtube videos...:

'Cap and Trade Is Dead'---So declares Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe,

See links at #50 and #53....for some excellent youtubes....