Posted on 11/09/2009 4:04:32 PM PST by ikeonic
It's time for a policy change in the American military. "Don't ask, don't tell" may have seemed like a good compromise in 1993 but makes no sense in a post 9/11 world where the average soldier worries far more about getting fragged by an al Qaeda sympathizer in their platoon than whether their bunkmate is a little light in their government issued boots.
This report from ABC news should make your jaw drop:
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News. According to the officials, the Army was informed of Hasan's contact, but it is unclear what, if anything, the Army did in response.Joe Lieberman is appropriately jumping to conclusions and demanding answers despite our dear Leader's warning not to. Yes, Obama only advocates jumping to conclusions when saying that a white cop "acted stupidly".
On Sunday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.Sorry, President Obama, I'm going to jump to conclusions here and I agree 100% with Joe Lieberman."If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance," Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.
In my opinion, any soldier who professes sympathy for the enemy or tries to contact the enemy should be immediately dishonorably discharged. If the Army was squeamish about kicking Hasan out when he practically begged to be kicked out, something is wrong and there needs to be a full investigation of Army policy.
If we've tolerated "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" for 16 years, surely we can justify swiftly discharging terrorist sympathizers within the ranks. Last I checked, there haven't been any terrorist attacks by gay or lesbian soldiers. To quote Barry Goldwater, "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight [at the enemy, that is.]"
It's time to scrap "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". The gay and lesbian people of the world are not at war with America. But radical, extreme Islam is most certainly at war with America and the military should not tolerate anyone who openly sympathizes with the enemy. Besides, does anyone really think any soldier at Fort Hood's biggest fear is getting fragged by a gay or lesbian?
Only the most homophobic person would conclude that gays in the military pose a greater threat than the next Hasan who comes unhinged and puts his extremist beliefs into action. Besides, allowing gays and lesbians serve in the military might serve as a deterrent to radical jihadis like Hasan since they openly hate gays. Muslim countries routinely condemn gays to death. Do we really care if the imams in Iran will hate us more if we allow gays in the military? They'll chant "Death to America! Death to Israel!" no matter what we do so it's silly to try to appease them in any way.
So I call on the military to give gays and lesbians a chance to serve. Kick the terrorist sympathizers out.
Not going to happen. This country is divided between socialists and conservatives. The socialist part is the greatest threat and they are willing to sacrifice all they have and lick the boots of every enemy we have, in order to bring this country down.
We can wait a loooong time, if we want to "ally" ourselves with the radical left.
Not going to happen.
We finally need to realize that the left doesn't work on logic. They don't care that their lifestyle is hated by radical islamists. They only have their anti-American agenda at mind. Nothing else counts.
And when the Islamofacist gets to paradise, 72 virgin gay sheep will be waiting for him. BAAAAAAHHHHHH! :)
again nail on head
get rid of all radicals and call a spade a spade instead of this PC crap.
Most common sense gays and lesbians already know Islam is not their friend, and would do more harm to them than any Christian would.
Yes, we should!
They pledged to defend the Constitution!
Being a radical leftist means being an enemy of the Constitution. Communists have nothing lost in the military.
Right on target!
I agree.
I think this was written tongue in cheek ... so to speak.
Realism.
The loss of lives due to islamist terrorism is appalling and horrible. But islamism is NOT what is tearing down the US from within, turning it into a socialist sink with corrupt robber-barons taking away our liberties, massmurdering babies in the womb and eradicating our traditions and culture.
That's the work of radical leftism within America.
Not to mention that they are more or less allied with islamist terrorists and tyrants.
The suggestion that we can form a coalition with the radical left against islamist radicalism is ridiculous already on the surface.
I'm certainly not going to throw all gays and lesbians in one lump group because their sexual behavior, etc. Just as I won't put all Muslims in the same radical Jihadist group either. Just as I won't throw all Christians in the same group as the fools who bomb abortion clinics.
Radicalism is the enemy, period. Radicalism on the left, and radicalism on the right.
But they look like boy and girl scouts compared to radical Islam. To even suggest that the 'gay agenda' is a bigger danger to America than radical Islam is, quite frankly, moronic and ignorant.
I think its more of a ‘stopped clock is right twice a day’ mind set, than a ‘we become libs and they become conservative.’ I see (from different sources) a ‘wake up call’ that there very well IS a Fifth Column, operating inside of our own government...and that the policies of same will get alot of us (straight, gay, conservative, liberal) killed.
The lame stream media as over stepped. Obama mis-calculated, and alot of people know what they saw on live, raw news feeds last Thursday...and now know what is being reported...and can universally (dispite other differences) see that we COLLECTIVELY are being lied to. Hasan’s faith IS NOT the religion of peace (no matter how many times it is repeated by the media and politicians). We are even being told NOT to judge this as terror. We are not the only ones to see this as a lie...
Can someone explain to me why someone’s love of anal sex and cunnilingus needs to be known? Political correctness is what allowed Hasan to stay in the military.
Where in the world do you get the idea that one has anything at all to do with the other?
Our troops are already demoralized by BS rules of engagement that seem designed to get them killed and a (rt btrd) commander in chief who obviously thinks golf is more important than them. Now, because PC run amok in our military allowed a terrorist act to happen here on one of our bases (another good morale booster, that!) you think it’s high time to force our troops to ignore dropped soap?
“Hey they can’t hate us any more than they already do, let the gays into the military!” - You can take this warped sideways logic over to DU where it has a home.
They pledged to defend the Constitution!
Being a radical leftist means being an enemy of the Constitution. Communists have nothing lost in the military.
I have no love for radicals of any political stripe, but if the military develops a litmus test for radical leftists, the Left will insist on a similar litmus test for the radical right and now you're on a very slippery slope.
I'll just say that we should all agree that anyone who openly sympathizes with the enemy should get the boot. Whether gays serve or not isn't that important to me, but I'm tired of this PC crap that says we can't call radical Islam what it is and remove the cancer wherever we find it.
However, I'm all for dropping pink camo paratroopers in Tehran. It would be like Jesse Owens at the Berlin Olympics.
This is like saying that because your engine broke down, it’s time to remove the brakes so you can go faster.
See my post above. I do not suggest that the “gay agenda” is the biggest threat to America. The overall radical leftist agenda is.
You certainly have noticed that I take care to write “radical leftists” and “radical islamists”, instead of lumping together every left-of-center voter or average Muslim together with the extremists. And yes there are also nuts and extremists on the right and within the “Judeo-Christian” ranks.
It can hardly be denied that the agenda of radical leftism has been historically and presently the most harmful force for America’s interests, power, way of life and liberty.
I agree that radicalism of all kind is the enemy, but I put Islam at the top. Radical Islam uses radical leftism as their means to gain acceptance, then immediately turns on the very tolerance that allowed them freedom. Its everywhere in Europe, particularly in GB and France. I'm actually surprised that France is realizing the err of their ways.
Let's scrap "Don't ask, don't tell."
Wow, that's one hell of an argument!
(rolls eyes)
You are correct.
Perhaps I should have argued that our military leadership is in sad shape when Colonel Jessup didn't order a Code Red against Hasan months ago. Instead, they ignored the evidence that Hasan was a radical jihadi and worried more about whether soldiers at Fort Hood were missing their horns.
Either way, the point is the same. The U.S. Army ought not to tolerate any sympathy for the enemy within the ranks. Gay soldiers who force themselves on other soldiers will be dealt with just the same as male soldiers who force themselves on female soldiers, but letting some nut like Hasan stay in the Army is not a chance they should ever, ever take.
P.S. I'm waiting for someone to say what a RINO loon Barry Goldwater, Mr. Conservative, was. I'm shocked it hasn't happened yet...
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