Posted on 11/06/2009 10:42:50 AM PST by Starman417
The hero cop who ended the bloody rampage at Fort Hood by pumping four bullets into the crazed gunman even though she was wounded is known for her toughness, friends say.Before relocating to Texas, civilian police Sgt. Kimberly Munley spent about five years as a cop in North Carolina where she forged a reputation as a no-nonsense officer.
"I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I'm really not," said close friend Drew Peterson, 27.
"She was born and bread to be a police officer. If you were ever to be in a fight, she'd be the first person to stand up next to you and back you up. She's a tough cookie."
Munley's toughness and grace under pressure were on display Thursday when she and her partner responded within three minutes of reported gunfire, said Army Lt. Gen. Bob Cone.
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1. Just taking the job elevates your ability to become a hero. A cop or firefighter gets the edge because they volunteer to do something dangerous on behalf of the safety of others.
2. Performing a job under duress, which CANNOT be 100% duplicated through training and simulation, makes it work. People can be trained to a standard, but you never know until the situation is REAL. Many well-trained people FOLD. Many well-trained people seek cover and call for backup and SWAT, because that’s what the SOP/manual says. One out of those 30 might say, “Hell with this shit!” and go inside and help.
I don’t think you’re trolling and I agree that America needs to constantly re-evaluate our concept of the “hero”.
However, I think this one fits the bill.
Then you fail to understand my posts.
We're in agreement. But perhaps for different reasons.
All the best!
I congratulate her for doing her job so well and, yes, she is MY hero. I guess we all have different standards for the term hero.
I'd say she was raised right.
This reminds me of the gutsy lady who stopped the Colorado Springs church shooter... And she was a volunteer, unpaid. Soory but if you are being shot AT, let alone shot, and respond with deadly efficiency, you are a hero, in the circumstances.
If your job requires you to run toward the sound of the guns why are you a hero?.. Because you didn’t call the Union and didn’t go.
I think I understand better now..especially when you say that she is not a hero because you would have done the same thing.
When? We never know, no matter how much training, what we do in that moment. Now we know what she can do. She proved herself heroically.
To John in Springfield: If your job requires you to rescue people from dangerous, life-threatening situations -- and you do so -- why are you a hero?
Did YOU choose to go into a line of work which might require you to rescue people from dangerous, life-threatening situations? If it does, have you actually put your own life on the line to protect others?
And if you've actually run towards the sound of gunfire yourself, then maybe you have room to say that Kim Munley, who risked her life and is hospital for it, is not a hero.
If not, then frankly, maybe you'd do better to put a sock in it on this particular point, earlier rather than later.
And let me ask you another question: Do we have ANY war heros? Do you think such a thing exists?
Our soldiers who run towards the sound of gunfire, who protect our country, keep freedom safe and lay their lives on the line... they're not heroes either, are they? They're getting paid to do what they do. By your definition, they're "only doing their jobs."
Therefore, by your definition, there are NO soldiers who are heroes, except maybe those who are drafted instead of volunteering to serve (which, incidentally, makes ZERO sense.)
By your definition, there were NO heroes among our firefighters or policemen in New York City on 9/11, either - only people who were doing the jobs they got paid for.
By your definition, the ONLY heroes on earth are those who risk their lives to save someone when they aren't getting paid to do it.
I'm sorry, but I think the vast majority of Americans would strenuously disagree.
Yeah “crazed” is going to be the term used by his muslim ACLU lawyer to get him off.
And if they had (yes, if YOU had), then he or she or you would be a hero.
Maybe because the nature of their jobs occasionally calls for them to be heroes.
“Believe the lovely lass was bred and not “bread” to be a cop.”
She knew what kneaded to be done.
She engaged without cover to force the perp to redirect his fire toward her, away from unarmed victims.
She fired twice to do this and then received at least three rounds striking her in both legs, one arm and abdomen. Disregarding her injuries she recovered, reacquired her target, and fired at least twice striking the perp with four rounds and completely disabling him.
Easily heroic actions.
If your job requires you to rescue people from dangerous, life-threatening situations -- and you do so -- why are you a hero?
And by the way, why would you tell me to "put a sock in it" regarding this particular point?
Do you always try to bully others to stifle debate?
If the circumstances are as you described them, and I have no reason to doubt you, then I would agree that this woman's actions are above and beyond the call of duty. That said, her actions were heroic -- and, yes, I'll gladly eat crow here.
My beef, as I'm sure you can tell by my previous posts, is awarding heroic status to acts of duty. By awarding heroic status to acts of duty, a true selfless hero's efforts (that is, going above and beyond the call of duty) are watered down, and the accolades come across as a little condescending. It's akin to everyone in a race earning a trophy, when only one deserves it.
Does that make sense?
To the coldwater poster who objected to the term ‘hero’ I understand where you are coming from, but think in this case the accolade is well-deserved. This wasn’t a punk robbing a 7-11 with no desire to actually kill people while taking money he didn’t earn.
This perp was seeking martyrdom: he gave away his possessions in the AM along with Korans, shouted ‘Alahu Abkar’ [sorry for spelling errors] and fired off a large amount of rounds that found soft targets, prior to the Sgt’s. arrival on the scene.
Surely some well-trained LEO’s may have paused or perhaps a few even frozen upon seeing such a scene? From all accounts the Sgt. ran in and got busy. Don’t know when she was hit, but I strongly suspect she kept firing afterward until the target was down.
Training is essential to be able to perform in such situations, but I truly believe it takes mental tenacity and superb OODA loop response to prevail. The Sgt. has both in my books. I am delighted to call her a hero and damned glad she was on duty.
I’m also delighted she didn’t kill the perp. He’ll have to wait for his 72 virgins- which he was unable to find on earth. According to his DC Imam, he participated in the mosques matching service, but no hits as he was too picky. What a surprise.
Hope he’s given life in solitary without parole. No deferred martyrdom, no opportunity to proselytize.
Unlike his actions in DC when he was reprimanded for his proselytization activities. Shameful, really, he was supposed to be counseling those who had stress disorders. Convert and all will be well? Please. [Sidebar: born in 1970, didn’t finish undergrad until 1997? What’s up with that...did he take a sabbatical somewhere?]
Those in the media, CAIR, and the perps cousin who try to suggest that the upcoming deployment created a stress disorder because he’d heard horrific stories from returning troops are nauseatingly overreaching, IMO.
Had the perp honorably fulfilled his duties, for which he was obligated having enjoyed a very expensive education at taxpayer expense, would not have been assigned to combat. No requirement to take up arms against his fellow co-religionists. Instead, he could have done good work. Too bad he is a cheating weasel.
He was bread in Old Kentucky, but out here, he’s just another crumb.
If you risk your life to save others, keep shooting while wounded to stop the threat, that qualifies, successful or not. Succeeding only adds to the luster. Combat is combat, overseas or not.
C’mon, take a risk; use the word, just this once. We won’t mind.
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