Posted on 10/26/2009 1:49:42 PM PDT by nutsonthebus
What do you think -- legitimate concern or is someone blowing smoke?
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You ask this question while planet Earth is undergoing a prolonged cooling period.
Anyone who does not understand that basic fact is unfit to do any reporting on the subject of global warming, or any other contested scientific subject.
Congressman Billybob
I was taught in the third grade that the temperatures during the time of the dinosaurs was much much warmer then our temperatures of today. They lived in a tropical like climate and they basked in the heat of live volcanoes is what they told me.
So either science was wrong back then, or science is wrong now. But either way, do we really think we can lower the global temperatures? I for one hope not. Just 4 little degrees difference between the average temperatures today and the little ice age when millions died.
No! I do not want to mess around trying to lower the temps. And if the temp drops and we find ourselves in another little ice age, do we get to execute the global warning so they can get rich off of the sheeple crowd?
Probably not.
ROBERT HEINLEIN
Not only has the “research source” wikipedia decided global warming is “mainstream scientific assessment”, it is prepared to delete any article listing and naming scientists who dissent. Cominbg soon to the entire internet serving you.
Welcome to Brave New World
I think in 200 years, this could be a problem.
Emphasis on could- i am far from an expert.
I wrote this for my Facebook page to share some info about global warming.
Scientifically, global warming is a complete fraud. The fraud cannot be about science, because the planet is not warming and is well within normal temperature boundaries. On top of that, CO2 is plant food. ... Read More
The Carbon in oil and coal started out in the atmosphere in the past (the cycle is: air to plant to decayed matter to oil/coal deposit, via photosynthesis, 6 H2O + 6 CO2 + sunlight = 1 organic sugar molecule and 1 oxygen).
Burning Carbon based fossil fuels puts a small portion of the Carbon back into the atmosphere. In the past CO2 ppm was 20 times greater than today (7000 ppm) with no greenhouse issues. It wouldn’t even be an issue if we could put 100% of it back, because the sun’s luminosity is 15% less than in the distant past.
Additionally, we couldnt return all the CO2 back to the atmosphere even if we wanted to. Why? The planet contains massive Limestone deposits, which is Calcium Carbonate, CO3. It doesnt burn, never could. That Carbon came from the atmosphere as well. That Carbon cannot be put back into the atmosphere.
The bottom line is that, we’re putting a very small fraction of the Carbon back where it came, and there is a zero% chance of runaway greenhouse effect. More CO2 is better.
God designed and created our Earth with incredibly robust self-regulation mechanisms.
I realized Global Warming was a hoax when Al Gore jumped on it.
When politicians take to a crusade of any kind, that thing is never what it seems. It is an iron-law of nature.
ML/NJ
When the sun shines, it gets warm, when the sun doesn’t shine, it gets cold. Why do people sit under umbrellas in the sunshine at the beach ... because its cooler! Geez, what the hell kind of formula do you need to understand that?
The supposed “scientific proof” that is offered is always “...well, there’s a consensus; x thousand scientists agree blah blah blah...Al Gore says blah blah blah...the science is settled and that’s that...”
The problem is that the scientific method I was taught in school doesn’t rely on consensus. Scientific theories aren’t tested by putting them to a “majority rules” vote.
And there is no such thing as “settled science”. If there were students would still be taught the phlogiston theory as “settled science”.
No. I believe it is possible but not proven. In the meantime we should be prudent. BUT no “crap and played” whichis nonsense.
parsy, who says better safe than sorry
As I posted on another thread, a recent Pew Research poll showed only 36% of Americans now believe in anthropogenic global warming. Of course the MSM reported only one figure from the poll—that 51% believe in global warming, a misleading figure that on it’s face would indicate a slim majority agrees with Obama and the Goracle.
The 36% figure is remarkably good considering the MSM giving almost total support to the man-made global warming hoax. The shift in public opinion on this matter means little to Democrats and RINOs who will continue to pander to Green Cult ideology as an excuse to grab power through cap and trade. It only makes the urgency of quickly passing the legislation even more urgent.
I also opined that 20% of Americans would believe the moon is made of green cheese if Obama told them so. Few in the MSM would actually believe anything so ridiculous, but many would report it as fact anyway in deference to their Messiah.
I would like to see them listed and their grant totals or UN/Gov. & party affiliation listed next to their names.
I find it impossible to believe that real life scientists believe this crap with the incomplete and erroneous information they have.
“It only makes the urgency of quickly passing the legislation even more urgent.”
So the urgency is even more urgent. I guess I was urgent to urgently post my urgent reply. Although the grammar may not be technically incorrect, as a former (private school) English teacher I am ashamed of my redundant redundancy. I hope I will be forgiven forgivingly by the language enforcers enforcing enforcement in the use of properly proper language on this forum.
The ultimate fraud is that science must demand that theories be proven by observation, and none, not one, zero, zip computer models have yet to predict the weather, say one year ahead of time, accurately. Yet the scare relies on computer-generated climate scores of years into the future. In computer models, errors compound geometrically with time.
For the math challenged, that means approaching zero accuracy, a random guess, very quickly.
Prudence is a good thing, but stupidity can't be remedied. It's like rationing water to the entire human population because we might have a monmental global fire in the future.
Prudence can become stupidity rather fast.
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