Posted on 10/21/2009 9:36:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The Wall Street Journal recently published an article discussing a theoretical collapse of the United States in 2010. Igor Panarin presented his theory in 1998, and cites mass immigration, economic collapse, and moral decline as key triggers to a second American civil war that will fragment the US into four pieces, with Alaska going back to Russia and Hawaii ending up in Japanese or Chinese hands.
Heres what Panarins theoretical United States region would look like, post second American civil war:
(MAP AT LINK)
Now, there are a few things I agreed with right off the bat, like California being the dominant part of the California Republic, and Texas forming the core of the Texas Republic. However, anyone who has ever been to both New York state and South Carolina will know that these two areas would never ally with each other in the event of a split. Its hard enough getting the people of Northern Virginia and the rest of the Commonwealth to agree on things; trueblood Southerns and Yankees will kill each other instantly.
So, it got me thinking. What would the US-region look like after a second civil war? Heres my map:
(MAP AT LINK)
I wrote a big ol breakdown of the different nation-states and why the aligned this way versus that way, etc. I was going to post it up along with my map, but when I explained it to my co-workers they all looked a little something like this:
(SMILEY)
...so I will probably hold onto it for another time. ;)
Anyway, what do you think? If the US were to collapse, how would you align the states?
My guess is that Tennessee, South Carolina and Kentucky are not going to fit all that well into Atlantic America which will soon be joining the EU.
My guess is that Tennessee, South Carolina and Kentucky are not going to fit all that well into Atlantic America which will soon be joining the EU.
I agree. The Texas Republic plus your Kentucky, Tennessee and South Carolina would likely be the southern grouping.
I don’t think the southern grouping would be “part of Mexico or under Mexican influence” though. It just aint gonna happen.
Article by Russian is total rubbish.
We are going to “Take It All Back” from the Leftist Slime.
Alaska will never speak Russian and there are many more states that gravitate toward Texas than listed.
If you look at the voting records from Congressmen, if you remove New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, California, and Michigan; they are where the problem is. Rest of the nation gets along pretty well.
Garbage. This assumes China/Japan and Mex and Russia are stronger than a divided USA. NO. It also assumes the American citizens will roll over to the Russians, Mexicans, etc. NO. How many guns are out there in the USA? How will the people of Alaska react to being ruled by Russia? These countries do not have armies big enough to pacify any part of the USA.
John Titor ping?
My thoughts exactly.
Another ludicrous view of how the US will be divided.
Looks that way...
This map looks more like the NCAA DIv. 1 Conference map.
New Texas= The Big 12
New America South= The SEC
New America North =ACC
Republic of the Midwest=Big Ten
California= The PAC Ten
Open Sky= The Mountain West
What makes them think it would be aligned by state?
Alaska is tiny. Barely over half a million in population and extremely spread out. It would be Russian in a month in the event of a civil war.
I suspect if there’s a balkanization of the US, some of those state lines will definitely change as well...
My real problem with ideas like this is the idea that states are single minded. I strongly doubt that Texas would stand together in the event of a civil war, let alone form a Republic with other states or parts of states.
I’ll say.
Western MD would have a collective stroke if it were shackled to the rest of the state.
[We’re all descended from and still within spitting distance of WV any way. Send us back home]
well at least we will be in with Texas here in Kansas. I can live with that.
I did some work in Accident way back when and as far as I could tell I was in WV.
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