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OBAMA CANNOT BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REGARDLESS OF WHERE BORN
antimullah.com/Terror News ^ | October 15, 2009

Posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:48 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: kellynla
1. No one can agree on what constitutes a natural born citizen.
2. Obama is already in office.
3. The media will never cover this fairly.

I fear that the combination of these three conditions is that this issue will never come to anything. It may be that the best we can hope for is that we can prevent this from ever happening again--assuming we ever have elections again.

Nevertheless, I admire and applaud the efforts of Orly Taitz, Alan Keyes, and all the other plaintiffs who have tried to get to the bottom of this. I pray that they will be rewarded with justice.

41 posted on 10/15/2009 8:08:30 PM PDT by giotto
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To: Mama Shawna

Replacing Ruthie with another liberal puke like her will not change the court’s complexion. Now, if Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito or Kennedy is replaced with a likeminded commie as Barry Obama, THEN we the people are finally screwed.


42 posted on 10/15/2009 8:10:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: mnehring

hehe Thanks manno!

I sure hope this gets traction. This has got to get into the main stream, it is just too important to history for America to sweep under the rug.


43 posted on 10/15/2009 8:12:02 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: kellynla

What are the chances that 5 Supreme Court judges will go along with this?


44 posted on 10/15/2009 8:13:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: BunnySlippers

uhhh...... where to start......


45 posted on 10/15/2009 8:14:11 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: BunnySlippers

He was grandfathered in by the constitution itself, which was done so that we could have a president before 1811!

“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;”

That was done so that we could have a president. it is now irrelevant obviously.


46 posted on 10/15/2009 8:16:00 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: 9422WMR

You’re right...wasn’t thinking. A lib replaced with a lib is still a lib. Thanks for the clarification!


47 posted on 10/15/2009 8:16:22 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: kellynla
BookThoughts:
The Company of Companionable Narrators

By Nancy Casey
from the March 2005 Newsletter
...
His book is the engaging (as opposed to egotistical) tale of Obama’s personal, moral, and political development. His mother was an intrepid white girl from Kansas. His father, whom he hardly knew, grew up in Kenya. Obama was born in Hawaii and spent his boyhood with his mother and stepfather in Indonesia, from which he retains vivid, fond memories of running in a pack of barefoot brown boys—until he left to attend private school in Hawaii. It’s when he’s a college student in LA that the stark incongruencies of his mixed heritage and the wide geographic and cultural span of his upbringing come into focus. There is no group of folks “just like” him. He doesn’t whine, just keeps carrying us through this compelling portrait—a stint of community organizing on Chicago’s dispossessed south side and travels to Kenya to connect with his father’s family. Presently, Obama is a US Senator from Illinois. I’m not used to national politicians engaged in such lucid and complex thinking as to be found in this book

48 posted on 10/15/2009 8:26:27 PM PDT by tarpit
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To: buccaneer81

“I was never told that I was not natural born.”

So, were you ever told you were?


49 posted on 10/15/2009 8:32:06 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: BunnySlippers

The founding fathers were the only ones exempt.


50 posted on 10/15/2009 8:33:09 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: BunnySlippers
Tell me how Alexander Hamilton become president

Umm... Hamilton was never potus.
I think someone needs a refresher course:


51 posted on 10/15/2009 8:34:49 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: buccaneer81

You were unnaturally born. LOL

Seriously, my understanding is that the definition of “natural born” which is included in the Law of Nations at the time of the constitution is both parents are citizens.

You’re a citizen, a native born citizen. But you are not a nutural born citizen if the above definition holds up as being the founders intent.


52 posted on 10/15/2009 8:36:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BunnySlippers

He was born in the West Indies, never ran for president, and was exempt from the natural born requirement because he was born before 1789.


53 posted on 10/15/2009 8:38:26 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: BunnySlippers

Hamilton was President? Learn something new every day.


54 posted on 10/15/2009 8:40:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: kellynla; All

I wouldn’t be surprised if some Obama warroom is manufacturing and e-mailing this theory to the gullible, expecting this way to discredit the opposition.

This all began with the question “was Obama born in the United States”, and this is a fair question that defines his eligibility to hold the Presidency. Moving the goalposts from the original question negates any questions about the foreign birth as it presupposes Obama is American born, and generally throws away any semblance of fairness in Obama’s opposition.

This is politics. This nonsense about his parents birthplace is so clueless it has to push sensible people away from those who question Obama, and into Obama’s camp.


55 posted on 10/15/2009 9:02:12 PM PDT by tlb
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To: BunnySlippers

Hamilton might have run for President if not for that nasty duel with VP Burr.


56 posted on 10/15/2009 9:19:50 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Godebert
William Arthur, the father of Chester Arthur, was born in Ireland. (As with Obama, there was a dispute as to where he was born. The official record shows Arthur as being born in Vermont; it was alleged that he was really born in Quebec, Canada.) If the definition of a natural born citizen requires that the parents be American citizens at the time of the President’s birth, then Arthur would have failed that test, as Obama does. He was born in 1829, but his father did not become a US citizen until 1843. Like Barack Obama, Sr., William Arthur was a British subject at the time of his son’s birth,
57 posted on 10/15/2009 9:19:57 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: BunnySlippers

Maybe because Alexander Hamilton never became president? He was shot dead by Aaron Burr, a former Vice President in a duel. Alexander Hamilton was Washington’s Secretary of the Treasury (as well as his former aide de camp while serving in the Continental Army). Burr was Thomas Jefferson’s VP.


58 posted on 10/15/2009 9:23:41 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: giotto
"1. No one can agree on what constitutes a natural born citizen."

But that is in fact one of the roles of the court, if Judge Carter will allow it, to determine the original intent. And that is done by examining congressional debates and the body of knowledge available at the time. Since the term is used in the "Law of Nations" available at the time of the constitution. It's likely that is the definition the founders meant to confer.

The constitution doesn't say "citizen" it says "natural born citizen". Clearly those words "Natural born", are not mere filling but must have meaning.

59 posted on 10/15/2009 9:24:49 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Tallguy
He was shot dead by Aaron Burr, a former Vice President in a duel.

Burr was not a former VP, but the incumbent VP.

60 posted on 10/15/2009 9:29:10 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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