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Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord
Wordpress Fighting Words Blog ^ | 15 OCT 2009 | Walter @ Fightin' Words

Posted on 10/15/2009 6:04:37 PM PDT by Yadanuiat

The Minnesota Free Market Institute hosted an event at Bethel University in St. Paul on Wednesday evening. Keynote speaker Lord Christopher Monckton, former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, gave a scathing and lengthy presentation, complete with detailed charts, graphs, facts, and figures which culminated in the utter decimation of both the pop culture concept of global warming and the credible threat of any significant anthropomorphic climate change.

A detailed summary of Monckton’s presentation will be available here once compiled. However, a segment of his remarks justify immediate publication. If credible, the concern Monckton speaks to may well prove the single most important issue facing the American nation, bigger than health care, bigger than cap and trade, and worth every citizen’s focused attention.

Here were Monckton’s closing remarks, as dictated from my audio recording:

At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.

[laughter]

And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.

But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it.

So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your president in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War. He quoted from your great poet Longfellow:

Sail on, O Ship of State! Sail on, O Union, strong and great! Humanity with all its fears, With all the hopes of future years, Is hanging breathless on thy fate!

Lord Monckton received a standing ovation and took a series of questions from members of the audience. Among those questions were these relevent to the forthcoming Copenhagen treaty:

Question: The current administration and the Democratic majority in Congress has shown little regard for the will of the people. They’re trying to pass a serious government agenda, and serious taxation and burdens on future generations. And there seems to be little to stop them. How do you propose we stop Obama from doing this, because I see no way to stop him from signing anything in Copenhagen. I believe that’s his agenda and he’ll do it.

I don’t minimize the difficulty. But on this subject – I don’t really do politics, because it’s not right. In the end, your politics is for you. The correct procedure is for you to get onto your representatives, both in the US Senate where the bill has yet to go through (you can try and stop that) and in [the House], and get them to demand their right of audience (which they all have) with the president and tell him about this treaty. There are many very powerful people in this room, wealthy people, influential people. Get onto the media, tell them about this treaty. If they go to www.wattsupwiththat.com, they will find (if they look carefully enough) a copy of that treaty, because I arranged for it to be posted there not so long ago. Let them read it, and let the press tell the people that their democracy is about to be taken away for no good purpose, at least [with] no scientific basis [in reference to climate change]. Tell the press to say this. Tell the press to say that, even if there is a problem [with climate change], you don’t want your democracy taken away. It really is as simple as that.

Question: Is it really irrevocable if that treaty is signed? Suppose it’s signed by someone who does not have the authority, as I – I have some, a high degree of skepticism that we do have a valid president there because I -

I know at least one judge who shares your opinion, sir, yes.

I don’t believe it until I see it. … Would [Obama's potential illegitimacy as president] give us a reasonable cause to nullify whatever treaty that he does sign as president?

I would be very careful not to rely on things like that. Although there is a certain amount of doubt whether or not he was born in Hawaii, my fear is it would be very difficult to prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii and therefore we might not be able to get anywhere with that. Besides, once he’s signed that treaty, whether or not he signed it validly, once he’s signed it and ratified it – your Senate ratifies it – you’re bound by it. But I will say one thing; they know, in the White House, that they won’t be able to get the 67 votes in the Senate, the two-thirds majority that your Constitution has stipulated must be achieved in order to ratify a treaty of this kind. However, what they’ve worked out is this – and they actually let it slip during the election campaign, which is how I know about it. They plan to enact that Copenhagen treaty into legislation by a simple majority of both houses. That they can do. But the virtue of that – and here you have a point – is that is, thank God, reversible. So I want you to pray tonight, and pray hard for your Senate that they utterly refuse to ratify the [new] Treaty of Copenhagen, because if they refuse to ratify it and [Obama] has to push it through as domestic legislation, you can repeal it.

Regardless of whether global warming is taking place or caused to any degree by human activity, we do not want a global government empowered to tax Americans without elected representation or anything analogous to constitutional protections. The Founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew their progeny allowed a foreign power such authority, effectively undoing their every effort in an act of Anti-American Revolution. If that is our imminent course, we need to put all else on hold and focus on stopping it. If American sovereignty is ceded, all other debate is irrelevant.

Edited to add @ 8:31 am:

Skimming through the treaty, I came across verification of Monckton’s assessment of the new entity’s purpose: 38. The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism, and the basic organization of which will include the following:

World Government (heading added) (a) The government will be ruled by the COP with the support of a new subsidiary body on adaptation, and of an Executive Board responsible for the management of the new funds and the related facilitative processes and bodies. The current Convention secretariat will operate as such, as appropriate.

To Redistribute Wealth (heading added) b) The Convention’s financial mechanism will include a multilateral climate change fund including five windows: (a) an Adaptation window, (b) a Compensation window, to address loss and damage from climate change impacts [read: the "climate debt" Monckton refers to], including insurance, rehabilitation and compensatory components, © a Technology window; (d) a Mitigation window; and (e) a REDD window, to support a multi-phases process for positive forest incentives relating to REDD actions.

With Enforcement Authority (heading added) © The Convention’s facilitative mechanism will include: (a) work programmes for adaptation and mitigation; (b) a long-term REDD process; © a short-term technology action plan; (d) an expert group on adaptation established by the subsidiary body on adaptation, and expert groups on mitigation, technologies and on monitoring, reporting and verification; and (e) an international registry for the monitoring, reporting and verification of compliance of emission reduction commitments, and the transfer of technical and financial resources from developed countries to developing countries. The secretariat will provide technical and administrative support, including a new centre for information exchange [read; enforcement].


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KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhonwo; climatechange; copenhagen; lordmonckton; monckton; sovereignty; treaty; untitednations
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41 posted on 10/16/2009 2:07:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Danae; Diogenesis

Orly has suggested Quo Warrento and it appears the judge is waffling.

“Judge Carter questioned the Defense’s counsel, regarding the method of impeachment and how that would address this controversy.

“Attorney Gary Kreep argued that the case does not involve impeachment; since Obama has entered office unlawfully.

“Judge Carter questioned on what basis his court could issue a quo warrento proceeding, when the D.C. court had jurisdiction over this kind of proceeding. Dr. Orly Taitz responded by citing precedents in the 9th Circuit, that allowed quo warrento proceedings to be held in California, rather than in Washington, D.C., in account of the great distance to the other side of the continent.”

http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2009/10/more-details.html


42 posted on 10/16/2009 9:36:10 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: Yadanuiat

Here is a letter to my Senator, Dick Durbin


Hello Dick,

I’m writing you today in order to ask you to stop the spending. Our economy is starving, people are staying home and our dollar is entering the toilet while Gold reaches new highs.

This December, there is a Climate Change trap that we are probably going to attend and the world is counting on us to be suckers enough to sign the Treaty, which will end up surrendering our sovereignty. I can understand that people are not happy with America but if they don’t like it, tell them to leave. I do not want our country to become another European state or to take orders from any other government. Does surrendering our wealth to third world countries sound like a good business decision? This is America. This is not some third world country who doesn’t know any better. Start slapping some sense into those commie bastards who support an idiotic idea like this UN. Climate Change Conference Treaty in Copenhagen. What is wrong with us? It’s starting to feel like the swine flue is a Government disease. The Green movement is nothing but control. If you read that treaty, the healthcare bill and the cap and trade bill, and then read our constitution, you will find that they are not compatible. Our Founding Fathers fought to get away from repressive laws and taxes like these.

Every day, I read something in the news that drives me insane. What is going on with our leadership? The leadership is giving citizens no other choice but to join groups that are against our current administration and the 111th Congress. Coincidentally, they are called Nazis or terrorists now but nazis were created by their government. Our President had promised that nobody making under $250,000 a year wouldn’t see a dime of tax increased. I guess he was right because he’s taxing us thousands of dimes through the back door in other ways, some of them pending like the Cap and trade and the Universal Healthcare scam that you all seem to be so excited about but are not going to be participating in. All of you need to wake up and get out of the way of our economy. Until you realize that Government is the problem, and that it needs to show restraint, we are going to suffer. And if we suffer, there will be drastic changes in our Government in 2010, 2012 and 2014. If our elected officials suffer, it will be because our government has created many activists. I have never attended a protest. But I will be attending the next one in my area. I am completely disgusted with what’s going on with my country! Represent me and stop trying to control America. Let it be free.

“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.” - Thomas Jefferson

Please, Represent me.

Sincerely,

Anastas


43 posted on 10/16/2009 9:36:27 AM PDT by Anastas
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To: Lady Jag

Yep.

She is in the wrong court for Quo Warrento, that has to happen in DC Circuit court, aside from the SCOTUS, it is the only remedy offered us by congress for ousting an Usurper.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2363950/posts

This lays it all on the line.


44 posted on 10/16/2009 9:41:46 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Diogenesis

Where was Lord Monkton on the issue of joining the E.U., and relinquishing British sovereignty?

I’m not dismissing he warning, just curious.


45 posted on 10/16/2009 9:46:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Yadanuiat

How can one monster do so much damage to so large a country in so short a time? Anyone? How is it that a temporary occupant of the white house can sign and get away with these treaties and agreements that hurt our society and democracy? I know it is a retorical question.


46 posted on 10/16/2009 9:47:10 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Just got up from Bedroomshire)
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To: Danae

Thanks. Off to read that thread.


47 posted on 10/16/2009 9:48:14 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: Lady Jag

Combine all that is going on... and it is a terrifying picture to behold.


48 posted on 10/16/2009 9:54:22 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae
Trust me, I am scared spitless. A lot of my graphics show it.
49 posted on 10/16/2009 10:09:02 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: Danae

Don’t you think it’s odd that as Illinois senator nearly 130 times he could not make a decision yes or no? Yet in the WH he’s like a bull in a china shop?


50 posted on 10/16/2009 10:12:50 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: Lady Jag

He isn’t constrained by anything now. As a senator he had not reached his goal, so he HAD to be measured least he ruin his chances.

All criminals are sneaky about their intentions and the “good” ones do not do anything that will prevent them from committing their crimes.

It is as simple as that.


51 posted on 10/16/2009 10:17:58 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Yadanuiat

“And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.

But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it.

So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your president in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War. He quoted from your great poet Longfellow:

Sail on, O Ship of State! Sail on, O Union, strong and great! Humanity with all its fears, With all the hopes of future years, Is hanging breathless on thy fate! “

Wow.


52 posted on 10/16/2009 10:22:03 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Danae
Your perspective and data, I need to be on your ping list.

He isn't doing this all himself and this subterfuge has been going on virtually forever.

This summer's townhalls appeared to have the best effect but Obama’s handlers have most everything locked in and wrapped up tight.

And not enough civilians are motivated to do what it takes.

What is your take on getting rid of this government?

53 posted on 10/16/2009 10:26:33 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: opentalk
And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many nuclear weapons do they have?

54 posted on 10/16/2009 10:29:19 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: Lady Jag

Not at all, you see, his goal was for higher office. The record was something he needed to avoid in order to get his higher office. Now that he has it, his real agenda is revealed.


55 posted on 10/16/2009 10:57:36 AM PDT by Anastas
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To: Anastas
That's right, I forgot. There is much to remember; that's why we need to hang together — or hang separately.
56 posted on 10/16/2009 11:06:05 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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57 posted on 10/16/2009 11:08:48 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: Kimberly GG

What the dems may or may not understand is the bribes and promises made to them by these crooks and thugs will never happen.

Why because they are dealing with crooks and thugs.

They should think carefully before voting because they will be under the same treaty.


58 posted on 10/16/2009 1:19:34 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Boogieman
>>>“It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights... <<<

And when was the last time the constraint of following the Constitution was observed by Congress.

Unless we fight for it, the Constitution will continue to be ignored [even laughed at] by the left in this country.

59 posted on 10/16/2009 8:45:45 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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