Posted on 10/05/2009 10:31:23 AM PDT by Deepest End
10:12 am pst
A commenter has asked if the case has been thrown out, I have NOT heard from Gary so the information can not be verified as accurate. Remember Obots like to play on the blogs
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(Excerpt) Read more at giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com ...
"Red flags went up immediately in my mind and the questions remain, as yet. Why does the Attorney General of the United States need to be present in an obscure hearing well off his beaten path? Could it possibly be, since Holder did not present himself in open court, he may hae had a little "whisper in the ear" to a Federal Judge in order to bias his judicial vision and adhere to the Presidents agenda of obstruction?"
More here:
(Thank you, deport.)
I've been checking the "Give Us Liberty" site, as infrequently as I can stand.
Welcome ... ;)
If the court orders the State of Hawaii to produce the BC,
How the heck will they report this?
It's going to be fun to see how they spin this.
That’s definitely encouraging... Still praying here. As you said, if he was going to dismiss I would think it would’ve been “over before it started” basically. That they have been in court for this long? I can only imagine that as being a good sign...
Is that the “Orange County Weekly”? Interesting comment... Are they trying to work in plausible deniability to save Obama from criminal charges of fraud in regards to the election itself? I wonder if the gov’t lawyers are arguing that he isn’t liable if he was lied to about where he was born in the first place...
The thing is though — with this statement it means that he is actually CONSIDERING the evidence before him thoroughly. That is a VERY good sign. I would think talking about this specific thing — Obama giving testimony — kind of means he is going to grant discovery! Surely, a deposition of Obama himself is something Orly and Kreep are requesting as part of the discovery phase.
The link at post 66 has a Tweet from an hour ago saying “recess”.
Birther Update: Judge to consider papers and arguments from today’s hearing before issuing ruling.
If anyone is in the courtroom, please whisper to Dr. Taitz that she really should sign her filings, from now on.
From your lips to God’s ear, I pray! And, if discovery IS ordered today, I don’t see any possible way for the MSM to ignore it... Not that they will WANT to cover it, not that any article will not be extremely biased, but it would seem they would HAVE to cover this or lose ALL credibility (seeing as how we will spread the news all over via word-of-mouth if we have to!)
Hearing is over. No ruling from the bench.
Just as a refresher, what exactly is being requested for discovery other than the long-form birth certificate?
This Obama fall back position was discussed more than once here on FR in the past year.
I didn't know...Mommy lied to me. Yada yada yada...
Thanks for the ping.
Watching several threads for updates.
And many of us didn't expect... The hearing went all the way up to lunch time. Not good for the Obots.
11:50 am Pst Gary reported the court is in recess and finished for the day. Intially Justice Carter was leaning to dismiss the case and accept Defendant's MTD, however Orly Taitz and Gary Creeps made a very impassioned arguement and the gallery burst into applause, the Marshalls did not stop the outburst, and it was felt Justice Carter was swayed by the outburst to not throw out the MTD but rather reconsider his decision.
He advised both parties no matter his ruling, both would be able to appeal to a higher court.
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11:43 am Pst The ruling- Motion to Dismiss will undergo further review by Justice Carter. No order for discovery.
11:43 am Pst The ruling- Motion to Dismiss will undergo further review by Justice Carter. No order for discovery.
BY **GEORGE,** I THINK WE'VE GOT HIM!
OUR WORST NIGHTMARE CONFIRMED: Obamas COLB Lacks Legal Veracity. What Now?
http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/our-worst-nightmare-confirmed/
Latest is “no ruling today “ ?? Judge need to review papers submitted today ! Great ! Just what the defendants wanted ! ANOTHER delay !
There is just TOO much info being submitted !
Plaintiffs simply want to “see evidence”. Plaintiff should state that entire defense claim is:
“This issue is suppose to be addressed by Congress and is outside of the jurisdiction of this court. He is already President, even if we used ‘fraud’ to get him there ! “
That is the ENTIRE summary of the motion to dismiss in a nutshell !
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