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Nuke, Nuts, and the Navy: or, My Struggle
The Bitpig Rant ^ | 2009.09.20 | Bitpig [B-Chan]

Posted on 09/19/2009 10:20:07 PM PDT by B-Chan

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To: Nateman

I’m glad you made it through. It’s a tough course — probably the toughest technical education in the world — but you passed it. Kudos.


61 posted on 09/20/2009 1:29:46 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: downwdims

Did your SNOB belt Buckle have the SACRED PAINT STAIN? (USS Atlanta SSN 712)


62 posted on 09/20/2009 1:36:18 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: B-Chan
...you passed it. Kudos.

Oddly I was a malcontent yet I tried pretty hard to be the top student. The few that topped me made less silly mistakes. You are probably better off than I am now.

63 posted on 09/20/2009 2:02:55 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: B-Chan

So in looking back, as a believer in Christ, rather than referencing depression in a worldly fashion as an orderly way of describing a state of mind, how would you describe “depression” as a Christian to other believers? (It’s cause, does it occur while in fellowship with Christ, or is it exacerbated by attempting to perform worldly good works in an attempt to glean approbation?)


64 posted on 09/20/2009 2:13:06 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
It’s [sic]cause

I don't have a deep knowledge of medicine. As I understand based upon the lay materials on the subject that I've read, the psychiatric cause of depressive disorders lies in abnormal brain chemistry; coupled with psychological factors such as trauma, etc., these abnormalities cobine to produce the various symptoms of the disease. In other words, the science boys say that it's a combination of "hardware" damage and buggy "software". I'm sorry that I don't have a better answer.

does it occur while in fellowship with Christ

Yes. Just as many Christians have diabetes, many have depressive disorders. However, I can say from personal experience that faith in Jesus Christ can both comfort those who suffer from depression and make living with its symptoms possible. Had I not enjoyed the priceless boon of my own return to the Christian faith, I doubt seriously that I would be here today.

or is it exacerbated by attempting to perform worldly good works in an attempt to glean approbation?

I'm not sure what you mean here. I will say that performing corporal acts of charity (i.e. doing good works) does much to help me when I'm in the Fog. I've learned (contra Rand -- sorry, fellas!) that the only time I'm truly happy is when I am not thinking of myself and my own problems.

65 posted on 09/20/2009 2:35:34 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

There’s sufficient online stff about

COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY . . . you could get far on your own.

See FREEPMAIL.


66 posted on 09/20/2009 2:44:11 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan; Quix

I posted some Bible Study notes which touch upon the topic, which are hard to find and only in hard copy.

Although originally copyrighted in 1989, the author recently passed away, promoted to be with the Lord, and the content is good for study purposes under an appropriate pastor-teacher while in fellowship with Christ.

They are part 1 of a 4 part series.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2344068/posts


67 posted on 09/20/2009 3:39:13 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: B-Chan
Been reading your posts for years. Thanks for your work on FreeRepublic. Sorry for your suffeirng, but our suffering as well as our success is what makes us who we are. I am a Family Practice Doc and I do watch carefully for depression and treat it aggressively. For most depression doesn't require a Psychiatrist. God Bless and keep up the good work.

Μολὼν λάβε


68 posted on 09/20/2009 3:39:35 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: Cvengr

THANKS THANKS.


69 posted on 09/20/2009 6:49:16 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the tip!


70 posted on 09/20/2009 7:34:17 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Cvengr

I’ll look into it. Thanks.


71 posted on 09/20/2009 7:36:23 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

Sure.

Please keep me updated on your progress as you feel comortable doing so.


72 posted on 09/20/2009 3:06:12 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wastoute

Thanks. And keep up the good fight as a GP. You guys/gals are doing God’s work.


73 posted on 09/20/2009 3:42:20 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Nateman

No paint stain on ours (SSN-760 Annapolis)


74 posted on 09/20/2009 6:32:06 PM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: B-Chan

> Thanks for the advice! I’ll check it out.

(grin!) You’re welcome. I salute you for bringing focus onto this issue with your experience. You will have done a great service in doing so.

You’re probably as aware of the various meds as I am, so I’m also posting this just in case there are others out there who are experiencing unpleasant side effects...

There are a whole swag of different antidepressants these days that your doctor can tap into: the days of Aropax-or-nothing are long past. While antidepressants tend to fall into one of two different categories — depending upon how they actually work — there is a vast range of difference between them and the way they can affect different individuals.

It can even make a difference whether you are using a branded-or-generic version of a drug, as I found out when switching from Aropax to its generic form Paroxitine. (The pharmacist may insist it won’t matter and that they are chemically identical, but it sometimes does matter and they are therefore obviously not identical — in my case I experienced stronger side-effects with the generic drug.)

So why am I saying all this? If you have Depression for Pete’s sake test-drive the various medications until you find one that a) treats your condition well and b) is comfortable for you to use and c) has minimal-or-no side effects.

It should be possible to find an excellent fit. Side effects are no fun at all: some of them can be really nasty, and it is probably unnecessary to suffer: just find another more suitable medication.

Antidepressants take a few weeks to “click in”, so be willing to invest some time into finding the right one for you. Believe me, it is time well spent: when you get the right one for you, it makes your life so much better.


75 posted on 09/20/2009 6:33:23 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: B-Chan

Thanks for your essay. And it shows the truth of the statement, “Better Living through Chemistry”. Depression CAN be treated, and kept at bay, if it’s detected, and the person suffering from it can be convinced to access that treatment.


76 posted on 09/21/2009 4:17:31 PM PDT by SuziQ
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