Posted on 09/15/2009 3:46:21 AM PDT by GOPthinker
We waterboarded 3 terrorists. We've aborted 40 million babies.
Those who were waterboarded were "tortured" by having water poured on them.
Those who were aborted were not tortured; they were only torn limb from limb.
Those who were waterboarded are guilty of some of the worst terrorist attacks in history.
Those who were aborted are completely innocent.
Those who were waterboarded are still alive.
Those who were aborted are now dead.
...and guess whose side liberals are on????
Not bad for a first thread/post, although I don’t think that you’ve told us anything that we don’t already know.
Welcome to FR.
Bump.
A good reminder. Thanks for the tragic comparison.
Imagine a health care system in which a newborn infant, immediately after birth, is stuck in a closet and left to die. Perhaps it takes a few minutes, perhaps it takes a whole shift, but the child eventually suffocates or dies of hypothermia. Is that the sort of health care system under which you would like to be treated?
This is precisely the system which President Obama has defended. We have a president who has advocated for infanticide while a state legislator in Illinois. See Barack Obama and the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html
We have a president who has advocated for infanticide. Not only did he argue that infanticide should be permitted because the children would tie up busy doctors and consume medical resources, he argued that it was wrong to intervene to save the children being killed because the parents originally intended to have the children killed by abortion. So what if they survived it and were living and breathing? They were supposed to have been dead. He went so far as to challenge the use of the word “child” to refer to children who are born alive, rather than being killed during the delivery.
To Barack Obama, human lives are disposable if they are unwanted by those with the power to get rid of them. His record is clear on this.
...’bout says it all.
Liberals have always been on the wrong side of things. If you read the Constitution in the context of Governments having “Powers” to be limited, and individuals having “rights” to be protected, you can see that the founders thought that governments (as in “the people”) should have no rights, and individuals should have no power over others, other than to protect individual rights, as in law enforcement. I believe Liberals think that the government collective have rights, and individuals can have power.
Based on what I've read from President Obama, he believes that rights are conferred by the government.
“It is my strong belief that the government has to treat all citizens equally. I dont think that the church should be making these determinations when it comes to legal rights conferred by the state. I do think that individual denominations have the right to make their own decisions as to whether they recognize same sex couples. My denomination, United Church of Christ, does. Other denominations may make a decision, and obviously, part of keeping a separation of churches and state is also to make sure that churches have the right to exercise their freedom of religion.”
-Barack Obama 2007 HRC/LOGO debate on gay issues Aug 9, 2007
This is diametrically opposed to how President John Kennedy succinctly framed the origin of rights in his inauguration address, delivered during the Cold War:
“And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globethe belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.”
Or as the founding fathers framed it in the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
For President Obama, unwanted children do not have a right to live,in fact, he disputes the use of the word “child” when referring to children who were born alive during the course of abortions.
For the purpose of he health care debate, President Obama and his supporters believe that certain classes of human beings are disposable. They can in good faith, claim they are providing better health care while simultaneously aborting or euthanizing fellow citizens.
Exactly, and if “rights” originate with the government, -and not God, then the government can take them away. -Plays God? That would fit into Obama’s life and death decision making with abortion and seniors.
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