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Obama Science Czar John Holdren – American exceptionalism can be stopped via redistribution
Fire Andrea Mitchell .com ^ | September 9, 2009 | Holdren conference video

Posted on 09/10/2009 8:51:42 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

His own words:

HOLDREN: There has been a strain of what many people call “US exceptionalism” in the United States, the notion that the United States is so big, so important, so powerful, so technologically advanced that it can and should do what it wants. I think this strain is misguided.

BRIT: Will Americans need to reduce their living standards? Is that politically viable, or will technology [unintelligible] do it?

HOLDREN: I think ultimately that the rate of growth of material consumption is going to have to come down, and there’s going to have to be a degree of redistribution of how much we consume, in terms of energy and material resources, in order to leave room for people who are poor to become more prosperous.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: agenda; bhoczars; bhoscience; czar; exceptionalism; holdren; science
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Does this surprise anyone, how many more Czars are Anti-American?
1 posted on 09/10/2009 8:51:42 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

The entire administration is unAmerican.


2 posted on 09/10/2009 8:54:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Texas Fossil

I’m not surprised....

but I am pissed that so many hide their frickin heads in the sand.....


3 posted on 09/10/2009 8:54:46 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Texas Fossil

36.


4 posted on 09/10/2009 8:55:19 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Texas Fossil; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


5 posted on 09/10/2009 8:56:46 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Texas Fossil
“...rate of growth of material consumption is going to have to come down, and there’s going to have to be a degree of redistribution of how much we consume, in terms of energy and material resources, in order to leave room for people who are poor to become more prosperous...”

OK wise a^%... what do you do when Americans figure out that it doesn't make any difference if they work or not and just decide to stay home and wait for a check? If work (and I am sure, increasingly ill paid work) is not sufficient to provide for yourself, and the gov’t. will ‘distribute’ subsidies to the ‘poor’, why work?

6 posted on 09/10/2009 9:03:33 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Texas Fossil

The game is to calmly discuss atrocity. Then if anyone gets upset about the destruction of hundreds of millions of lives, they have anger issues and can be marginalized, demonized and dismissed.

In the liberal world, this isn’t a fantasy - it’s literally reality. Liberals DO NOT allow this interpretive code to be challenged. It is reality, and those who resist it are the enemy - period.

This is why these “czars” can speak openly of intending to commit horrors. As long as the horrors are framed within the liberal interpretive code, they are - literally - transformed into benefits to liberals.

Liberal “thinking” is the very definition of insanity.


7 posted on 09/10/2009 9:03:34 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Texas Fossil
unable to be surprised anymore.

If Obama came out and said, "the truth is, I'm a leftist and I hate America and me and my friends intend to tear it down and rebuild it to suit our tastes using your capital and blood and sweat and tears" I don't think people could find the backbone to see it as a threat.

8 posted on 09/10/2009 9:06:47 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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To: Texas Fossil
There has been a strain of what many people call “US exceptionalism” in the United States, the notion that the United States is so big, so important, so powerful, so technologically advanced that it can and should do what it wants.

And, this is a bad thing because . . . . . . ?????

9 posted on 09/10/2009 9:07:44 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Talisker
The game is to calmly discuss atrocity. Then if anyone gets upset about the destruction of hundreds of millions of lives, they have anger issues and can be marginalized, demonized and dismissed.

That exposes their tactics well.

10 posted on 09/10/2009 9:07:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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To: Talisker
The game is to calmly discuss atrocity.

Profound statement, and horrifyingly correct.

11 posted on 09/10/2009 9:10:36 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Talisker

Commies are by nature bureaucrats.

They are not moored to a value system, only what they decide. They have a God complex and do not believe in God.

Talk about Schizophrenic.

And Evil.


12 posted on 09/10/2009 9:21:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. -Sam Houston)
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To: the invisib1e hand

You are very correct. Have not heard it put that way before, but could not be more accurate.

Evidence of this is all the Genocides in this century. None of the academics seem to correlate these with Totalitarianism. The correlation is 100%.


13 posted on 09/10/2009 9:23:42 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. -Sam Houston)
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To: Texas Fossil; Talisker

twas talisker that said it. i just recognized good sense when I saw it.


14 posted on 09/10/2009 9:24:59 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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To: Talisker
The game is to calmly discuss atrocity.

Hannah Arendt called it "The banality of Evil."

15 posted on 09/10/2009 9:26:59 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

You read Hannah Arendt?

Her book “The Origins of Totalitarianism” was the most difficult book I ever waded through. The very sentence structure left me exhausted. Must have been because of the primary language issue.

She did a brilliant job on the subject. It has been a while since I read that. Heavy.


16 posted on 09/10/2009 9:41:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. -Sam Houston)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yea, I slogged through that one. For a light read I recommend “The Gulag Archipeligo”. It’s only 800 pages or so, but well worth your time.


17 posted on 09/10/2009 9:51:21 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I want to be exeptional. I want my children to be exeptional.


18 posted on 09/10/2009 9:54:29 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Texas Fossil

“They have a God complex and do not believe in God.”

And boy are they going to be terrified when they have to face Him and see the place He has prepared for them.


19 posted on 09/10/2009 10:10:42 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: DarthVader

Spot on! When they stand before Him, they won’t even be able to lie to themselves because being in His presence is an Honesty-Only zone.


20 posted on 09/10/2009 10:12:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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