Posted on 09/08/2009 1:24:37 PM PDT by pissant
See post 158 for clarification, please.
It was a comment, not a suggestion. But if you insist.
(I do a lot of Wordsmithing, under protest, but I do it).
Maybe a few old Gunnery Sergeants guarding him in relays?
“There is no Constitutionally mandated language or turn of phrase required to declare war. “
Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution says,
The Congress shall have power To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
I’d like to see the formal declaration regarding 9/11.
But after all the whereas stuff, it comes to this:
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES. (a) IN GENERAL.That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.
(b) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS.
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.
LOL you sound like me.
Who the hell cares if Smith can prove he was in Kenya?!?!
We have a foreign usurper pretending to be POTUS and leader of the free world, who has not provided PROOF he is eligible to hold the office, and all you are worried about is if some kid can prove he was in Kenya?
The only proof that needs to be discovered is if the document he submitted is legitimate.
See post # 182. You can also search "S.J. 23 14 September 2001" for the full text. It doesn't even fill a full page.
Perhaps it would have been better said in 1100+ pages?
Me. But only because it's part of the provenance of the real BC.
Would you trust it more if it just sorta showed up on FuctCheck?
We have two documents, one we can trace in an unbroken chain back to it's point of origin in official records, one that just magically appeared. You're the judge, which one do you trust?
In this case the judge doesn't even need to trust either one.
All Orly and Kreep really need to do is raise enough doubt in his mind that he orders Hawaii to release certified copies of the original documents they claim to have on file.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the info :)
Correction? You had nothing to correct, you asked a perfectly reasonable question.
I want to set the record straight about Mr. Drake, Mr. Robinson, and their attorney Mr. Creep being granted permission to adjoin their case to ours.Yes, I am one of 48 plaintiffs in this case and I was one of the first to sign on. So far 46 of us have supported Ms. Taitz in her lawsuit. Only 2 plaintiffs have withdrawn and have been causing trouble and distraction by trying to hire a new attorney and sneak back into OUR case. They should have filed their own lawsuit, but they chose to selfishly make waves along with Kreep and his associates. Yesterdays antics at the hearing by Kreep were disgusting and documented well in this media post: http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2009/09/08/obama-birthplace-lawsuit-in-oc-plauged-by-infighting/21081/
7 of us plaintiff witnesses were there to support Orly and we all rejected Kreep coming into the case during the break to work it out. But Kreep refused to back down of course. The judge let him back in ONLY in the name of time and expediency otherwise Kreep and his clients would have been told to take a hike and file their own suit. We all witnessed it and the transcripts would clearly show it. Kreep and his clients got very lucky, but no they just need to let this move forward.
So, heres where we are (and your future reporting needs to reflect these REALITIES if you keep mentioning Gary Kreep)
1. Yes, Kreep has technically been allowed to enter the case as co-counsel, but -
2. Kreep only represents 2 plaintiffs out of 48. Most of the rest of us have retained Ms. Taitz as our attorney and do not recognize Kreep as lead counsel or even co-counsel. Hes just a secondary or sub attorney on the case. Orly is lead counsel and will make all final, binding decisions on behalf of us plaintiffs. Any further attempts to delay these proceedings by Mr. Kreep (he delayed a hearing yesterday from Sept. 11 to Oct. 5), will not be tolerated and we will take all necessary legal action to stop any more of his antics.
3. Ms. Taitz has a large team of experienced attorneys assisting her now. If Mr. Kreep remains on this case he will be expected to give his professional input, but defer to OUR lead attorney, Ms. Taitz and not argue with her in open court.
4. As you may or may not be aware, Mr. Kreep has a horrible reputation in Southern California among grass-roots activists and Patriot groups. His latest court gimmick yesterday was just another in a long string of selfish games that Kreep has been playing. Everyone is on to him here and watching his every move from now on. He will be tarred and feathered if he in any way hurts our case. His days of damaging Ms. Taitz efforts to get to the truth are OVER!
Just a friendly warning to those who continue to support and promote Gary Kreep in this case.
On behalf of the veteran plaintiffs,
Jeff Schwilk
MSgt, USMC (Retired)
The lead plaintiff agrees...
“4. As you may or may not be aware, Mr. Kreep has a horrible reputation in Southern California among grass-roots activists and Patriot groups.”
Uhoh is right, that doesn’t sound good..in so many ways. I pray the judge knows what he’s doing.
Although, this statement:
"3. Ms. Taitz has a large team of experienced attorneys assisting her now."
Is the first (alleged) "proof" that I've seen from someone "on the inside" that she has help from other attorneys
Thanks, rxsid.
Catching-up Ping.
(Begin at #201 and read the entire page, time permitting.)
That’s is awesome, and it is a relief. That could be why she’s making headway now..
kreep sounds like a loose cannon, and I hope the team keeps him under control. I would suspect her team will reign him in when necessary. A team of atty’s can be very persuasive and even intimidating. ;-)
Hopefully now that Orly has a team of attorneys working for her that her filings will be proofread and spell checked.
I give her credit for working very hard and badgering Hussein at every turn. Orly seems to have the support and confidence of active and retired military people in these cases.
Placemark.
My advice to fellow FReepers would be to take that email with a very large grain of salt.
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