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1 posted on 08/15/2009 2:07:47 PM PDT by fiscon1
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To: fiscon1
I could have sworn that was Ron Mexico.


2 posted on 08/15/2009 2:09:56 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fiscon1

Vick DID serve his time... now time for the REAGAN MODEL...

TRUST ... but VERIFY.
it worked with the Soviet Union.


3 posted on 08/15/2009 2:10:39 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: fiscon1

I will consider “forgiving” him after he stands at midfield on the NFL emblem and forty pit bulls walk up to him and lick him to show he is their friend.


4 posted on 08/15/2009 2:10:51 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: fiscon1

No.


5 posted on 08/15/2009 2:11:49 PM PDT by jessduntno (Privatization + Inter-State Sales + Individual Policies + Tort Reform = Healthcare Reform)
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To: fiscon1

He did something wrong but admitted it, did not blame sociecty, accepted his punishment, did his time.

I will never PERSONALLY feel good about it, but he didnt do anything to me so I cannot ‘forgive’ him. And I think it is wrong to take a poll or somethign and pronounce forgiveness if he tops 50%. We do too much of that crap and the minorty will be incensed that he was granted collective ‘forgiveness’ against their wishes.

But he paid his debt to society without saying it was someone elses fault. so it’s over, and he can resume his carreer.

TO redeem himself in animal lovers eyes will take a lifetime.


6 posted on 08/15/2009 2:13:30 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: fiscon1

He may have satisfied the legal system but not me, probably not ever.

Anyone who could treat an animal(s) like that, promote and enjoy it has no conscience and likely never will.


8 posted on 08/15/2009 2:15:43 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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I am “an animal lover”. I’ve shared most of my 63 years with dogs. Have I always treated them as well as I should? No!. But what Vick did was WAY beyond the pale. Not only the fighting, but the killing. A dog is love written on a tabula rasa. Those dogs became what Vick made them. And when he killed them, or when they suffered from wounds received on his behalf, they probably licked his hand.

Do I want to see him back in jail? He got out too early, but he copped a plea, so, ‘No’. Do I want to deny him a life or a livelihood? No again.

But I object to Vick resuming his million dollar vocation, and being a potential hero to young Americans. He doesn’t deserve it. And the NFL should be castigated for embracing him far too quickly. As for the Eagles, what do you expect from a city that booed Santa.


13 posted on 08/15/2009 2:20:41 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Barbaric!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V95eGgZbrU

I never get tired of Sheets Byrd saying that.

Seriously, he did his time. What a cruel and psycho thing to do to animals, but forgiveness is in order.


14 posted on 08/15/2009 2:20:43 PM PDT by cowtowney
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Just so it never becomes unclear again ... the sport is all about $

as long as they let him come back there will be other who follow in his footsteps

It would seem that more of this behavior will be tolerated for the money

The message is that there are no real lasting consequences to your actions as long you can get someone to pay you to throw a football

.

16 posted on 08/15/2009 2:27:58 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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NO. He is a POS.

Those who are in favor of him love their ball games and TV as they slip into serfdom. Fools.


18 posted on 08/15/2009 2:32:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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Michael Vick Pictures, Images and Photos

Let's see, you have a dog whining in pain, do you:

A: Bring it to a vet.

B: Hold it under water until it drowns while you laugh.

C: Hook up some jumper cables to it and electrocute it while you laugh.

2. You have a dog as a house pet. Do you:

A: Give it a loving home.

B: Feed it to some pit bulls and while it's howling and whining in pain, laugh.

3. You have a man who has committed multiple cruel felonies that is out on parole. Do you:

A: Suggest that the tire store down the road is looking for help mounting tires on cars.

B: Give him over a million dollars to play a game and be a model for getting away with it.

22 posted on 08/15/2009 2:43:08 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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We have a NJ basketball player who shot and killed his chauffeur, years have gone by and he’s still walking free, we have numerous sports figures involved in drugs, mayhem, traffic accidents, and of course, all those folks who are pro choice who think killing their baby in the womb is a constitutional right..........


23 posted on 08/15/2009 2:55:02 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: fiscon1

Vick is a cretin.


25 posted on 08/15/2009 3:01:20 PM PDT by Third Person (0bama is a Little Lebowski Urban Achiever.)
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Time to forgive Don Imus?


26 posted on 08/15/2009 3:15:33 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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The following analysis is not going to do much for my popularity. However, I had to learn to become accustomed to unpopularity many years ago when I decided that I wasn't going to call 'em like I saw 'em, but instead would call 'em they way they are.


Here's what Vick's crimes cost him:


1. $71 million in base salary over 10 years;

2. $7.5 million (estimated) in bonus repayment to the Atlanta Falcons franchise;

3. $30 million (estimated) in product endorsements over the life of his now-void contract (some estimates run as high as $50 million);

4. 18 months served in federal prison;

5. 3 years federal probation.

6. The loss of what are likely to have been two of the most productive seasons in the very brief career of an NFL player; he is unlikely to ever regain his previous level of athletic performance, further reducing his marketability and earning potential;

7. An element of commercial risk for any team who signs him, the level of which cannot be quantified in advance, but which is very real nonetheless;

8. Bankruptcy, filed in July, 2008;


Make no mistake: Michael Vick was guilty of heinous crimes, to be sure, but he has undoubtedly paid as high a price as anyone ever has who has been convicted on similar charges. The direct, measurable costs to Vick appear to be in excess of $100 million, and that may be a conservative estimate.


Vick's crimes cost him pretty much everything he ever had, and I fully recognize that he has only himself to blame.


All things considered, it would be hard to say that he got off easy, or that he hasn't paid his debt to society. He didn't, and he has.


If the Philadephia Eagles want to give Vick a second chance, I hope he can take advantage of it to build some kind of life for himself that doesn't involve any of the activities that cost him so dearly the first time around.
27 posted on 08/15/2009 3:48:15 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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He's a sadistic serial dog torturer and killer. That did not change when he completed his prison term.

I would never knowingly watch him play.

Football is just a game. If I can't watch it without wanting to throw up, forget it.

28 posted on 08/15/2009 4:17:53 PM PDT by TChad
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If a doctor, lawyer, or CPA was convicted of a felony their careers is over after they are released.

I have no problem with a private company hiring an ex-con. I do object to a private company subsidized by the taxpayers (publicly funded sports stadiums) doing so.

Make the NFL buy every stadium they use and they can field 100% criminal teams for all I care.


29 posted on 08/15/2009 4:48:11 PM PDT by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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