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LA fitness center banned guns, classic disarmed victim zone.
Keep and Bear Arms ^ | 11 August, 2009 | Bruce Kraft

Posted on 08/12/2009 7:49:20 PM PDT by marktwain

Submitter's Note: I have confirmed with LA Fitness' corporate headquarters; all members are prohibited from carrying guns. So the scene of this massacre was a classic FSA "safe haven from guns", which made it a ripe target for a twisted sicko.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; gunfreezone; lafitness; sodini
This note was attached to a nasty article calling for gun control by the orwellian named "Freedom States Alliance".

Bruce Kraft submitted the article to keepandbeararms, and independently confirmed the anti-self defense policy of LA fitness.

1 posted on 08/12/2009 7:49:23 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Gun free zones make sitting ducks out of the people that are in them...


2 posted on 08/12/2009 7:53:28 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: marktwain

LA Fitness also has CNN running on their TVs by treadmills, elipticals, bikes. They have about 9 to 12 TVs in groups of 3. CNN is on 1 TV in the groups of 3. Sucks.


3 posted on 08/12/2009 7:58:15 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: marktwain

This can’t be right. How did a nutcase get a gun into a gun free zone? Didn’t he read the signs?


4 posted on 08/12/2009 8:02:33 PM PDT by squidward
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To: marktwain

That website looks like it cleaned up it’s act since the previous owner was thrown in the clink. I hope the new owners continue the trend.


5 posted on 08/12/2009 8:03:42 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: marktwain

Other than carrying in your gym bag or purse, how would carry in an aerobics class?

LA Fitness’ ‘rule’ was no different than malls that proudly proclaim to GFZs. Its management attempting to pander to their stylized interpretation of their customers’ (mostly female) wishes.

FWIW, Sodini has been described, in local media coverage, as being the blueprint ‘loner’ who snaps and causes carnage like this. The picture has been painted by neighbors; co-workers; and his own words on his blog.


6 posted on 08/12/2009 8:03:51 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win!" Mahatma Ghandi)
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To: marktwain

Umm, Who is packing heat while exercising? Maybe there could be another incident avoided if guns were legal, but there is no way on earth anything could prevent a whackjob like this pulling off this massacre. (outside of metal-detectors)


7 posted on 08/12/2009 8:09:31 PM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: marktwain

If only they would have made the gym a gun free zone before the murders!!!! No mass killer would EVER violate that rule... Kill innocent people... suuuuure... violate a "no guns allowed" sign... no one would ever do that!

8 posted on 08/12/2009 8:14:17 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: marktwain

For Freepers who’ve never been to a fitness center, nobody would ever want to be packing during a workout.
However, I’m sure some of the local cops have their service weapon in their gym bags. Judging by how close by they keep them, as they move from station to station. (Rather than locking gym bags in a locker)


9 posted on 08/12/2009 8:24:57 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: marktwain
Missouricarry.com lists businesses that are gun free zones.

On their web site it is listed under Business Boycott.

http://www.missouricarry.com/index1.htm

The idea started shortly after Missouri Concealed Carry came into being some 5 + years ago as a boycott.

To me it has become a safety issue. I stay away from the "Gun Free Zones".

They are an accident waiting to happen.

In other states are there similar organizations that provide this service online?

10 posted on 08/12/2009 8:25:16 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: Shooter 2.5
I don't know if Angel Shamaya is still in jail. I haven't heard. Here is some information about when it happened. Angel is a real patriot who did more, risked more, and suffered more for freedom in this country than most have.

This was from three years ago. Angel Shamaya Being Held

Angel Shamaya started KeepandbearArms.com & ran it through much adversity - both personal & relating to the site. He let it go last year as he figured it was the best thing to do for the cause. He's given a lot of time, energy, passion, cash & patience to try to help the pro-gun cause.

Now he needs yours.

I'm not up on all the details but it seems he was arrested for not complying with Michigan's gun registration laws. From a quick glance at that link it would seem that Michigan requires all handguns to be registered. (I will note that Michigan considers a pellet gun a firearm so if you have a pellet pistol they expect you to register it.)

David Codrea has more. Go there now & please do what ever you are able to for Shamaya. If you don't know him or of him & wonder why you should spend any effort on helping him out there's one reason why you should reconsider: that could have been you.

If you're here odds are you're pro-gun & not crazy about the idea of registration. From what I understand that was Shamaya’s only offense - not registering his arms. If it was me I'd be in the same boat - well if I were alive at that point - as I'd be damned if I registered anything with anyone.

So if you know nothing of the man's work or what he's done for us then I ask you to consider helping him as you might think about helping me should I ever wind up in his situation.

As more becomes known I'll try to update you. But check in with The War On Guns as David will probably find things out before I will.

11 posted on 08/12/2009 8:33:53 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Frantzie
****LA Fitness also has CNN running on their TVs by treadmills, elipticals, bikes. They have about 9 to 12 TVs in groups of 3. CNN is on 1 TV in the groups of 3. Sucks.****

At the Golds Gym I go to they have 16 tv's on the wall and one of them in tuned to Fox News and another is tuned to CNN so I geuss they're fair and balanced.

12 posted on 08/12/2009 8:49:10 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (There might just be too many metrosexuals in America to allow Sarah Palin to become President)
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To: marktwain

Ah, maybe they could be sued for depriving their customers of their civil rights, the first of which is the right to life and to defend one’s life.


13 posted on 08/12/2009 8:53:28 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Why couldn’t they do this? Imagine if they tried banned the 1st Amendment!


14 posted on 08/13/2009 4:31:55 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: marktwain

Well, you know what they say. If you’re going to do the crime,......don’t let the vindictive ex-wife find out.


15 posted on 08/13/2009 7:05:04 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: marktwain

The solution is simple. Don’t go there.


16 posted on 08/13/2009 7:06:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: Red in Blue PA
Actually, they probably do ban the first amendment, and that is their right.

Just try standing inside any store and handing out campaign literature, hold a prayer service, or give a speech for (or against) Obamacare, and you'll swiftly learn that private businesses have every right to restrict the exercise of these rights inside their place of business.

And we have every right to take our business elsewhere.

17 posted on 08/13/2009 6:27:25 PM PDT by Nonesuch
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