OBAMA KNEW HE WASN’T ELIGIBLE FOR POTUS

Give Me Liberty ^ | 8/12/09 | Lynn Dartez

[Plummz]

Barry looks like Malcolm X more than Obama Sr b/c they are both of West African descent and Barack Sr is East African. Barry is West African thru his father Frank M Davis.

[Lancey Howard]

BUMP an excellent analysis.

[infowarrior]

I would think the antichrist would not be such an incompetent boob.

As I've said all along, Obama isn't "old Mr Triple-Six". He is, as you said, too incompetent for the job.

What he is, however, is a stand in, who is part of the perhaps final dress rehearsal for "opening night" of that prophesied time. We have seen that the machinery to elevate someone from obscurity, to great prominence in a flash, without any real attempt to discern the basics (who, what, when, where, why, and how), works, and all too well.

This machinery *will* be used again, and the real "show" will be on!

the infowarrior

[thecodont]

While the popular protests as people begin to understand the loss of liberties and ruin he intends to make of our economy, give me hope, there is another possibility: seeing how hard it is to explain, even to people who don't like anything Obama stands for, his constitutional ineligility, some major power brokers, perhaps including the courts, may be waiting for the polls to shift.

I hope and pray the wind will shift favorably, and soon, and that it will not be too late.

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He knew, or was told, that he would be safe, probably because of all the advance legal preparation.

It's instructive to have in hand a list of major American law professors and from it see whose campaign they so generously supported with their money.

[RegulatorCountry]

Albert Gore, Jr. was born in Washington, D.C., to Albert Gore, Sr., a U.S. Representative (1939–1944, 1945–1953) and Senator (1953–1971) from Tennessee, and Pauline LaFon Gore, one of the first women to graduate from Vanderbilt University Law School.

Are you certain he wasn't born in Tennessee? I know he spent the entirety of his, pretentious formative years in the lap of luxury of some swank hotel being chauffeured about, but actually born there?

If so, that makes me lean very heavily in the direction of original intent to exclude those born in the District of Columbia, lol. The Founders were quite prescient, in seeking to eliminate certain influences, as Obama demonstrates. Gore's demonstrated allegiance has been to the concentration of political power, something the Founders sought to distribute and decentralize as much as possible.

So many Presidential candidates with plainly or potentially doubtful eligibility from 2000 onward, coinciding with so many efforts, five at least, to alter or remove the natural born citizen requirement for eligibility under the Constitution.

Makes me want to scour through John Forbes Kerry's various French connections, to see where his eligibility is in doubt.

[RegulatorCountry]

HOWEVER, FWIW, English Common Law had been revised several times to confer natural born citizenship to children born abroad or on the high seas to English citizens who were in service to their Sovreign.

THEREFORE, SCOTUS would MOST LIKELY state that McCain was a natural born citizen ...

Assuming that English common law regarding royal subjects inspired men seeking to break from the monarchy, as far as their own citizenship in a new polity that was regarded as a group of rebel colonies by that monrachy, is not logical.

There are ample cites demonstrating a certain reverence among the Framers for de Vattel in several Constitutional matters, and direct quotes from the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, to validate the notion, that the definitive understanding of the term natural born citizen was drawn from The Law Of Nations.

[Homer1]

Don’t know...I think he’s hiding something, but now with so much ado about the COLB, the coverup has become bigger than whatever it is he’s hiding. There’s a lot more at stake now.

[Homer1]

He’s only posted the doc on his website and sent it to reporters. I don’t think thry could charge him with anything...

[cvq3842]

Thanks.

[cvq3842]

Thanks.

[cvq3842]

Thanks!

[Kansas58]

First,
Those who disagree with me on my primary point:

“Natural Born Citizen” means “Citizen at Birth” do seem to keep changing the argument.

I admit that there is some, small argument against my position, but my position is legally and historically sound.

However, there is NO argument that Congress has the ability to pass laws concerning citizenship, both NATURALIZATION and NATURAL BORN!

Your legal opinions are crabbed, twisted and silly.

The Constitution does NOT prohibit Congress from passing laws on the entire matter of citizenship. IMHO, this is PRECISELY why the founders used the term “Natural Born Citizen” -— to make SURE that Congress would never grant RETROACTIVE citizenship to someone that was not, otherwise, qualified for POTUS!

Look at your own post:

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READ Article I, Section VIII of the United States Constitution:

” ... To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization ...”.

Congress CAN ONLY establish NATURALIZATION laws - it CANNOT define natural born citizenship.

It is for SCOTUS to decide what natural born citizenship means, if or when they get around to it. They will have to consult Common Law, the Founding Fathers’ original intnet and common sense in order to arrive at a decision ...

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That the Constitution DOES provide for Congress to make laws concerning Naturalization in NO WAY prohibits Congress from making laws concerning Citizenship at Birth.

That the Constitution Does provide for Congress to make laws concerning Naturalization also, IN NO WAY prohibits Congress from making laws concerning Natural Born Citizen definitions, EITHER!

(The Constitution only prevents RETROACTIVE laws, in this regard!)

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One other point:

Congress is a CO-EQUAL branch of government.

That you give 100% of the power to interpret the Constitution to the Courts is NOT at ALL a conservative position.

The Supreme Court ruled that IT had sole authority to interpret the Constitution?

So what?

The Congress could simply pass a law, by simply majority, telling the Courts that they do NOT have jurisdiction over most of the stuff that the Courts have ruled upon!

You worship at the alter of the Courts.

You ALSO do not seem to care about “unintended consequences”

These traits, of yours, are troubling.

Your traits put you outside of Conservative jurisprudence.

[jersey117]

How did mccaakill win in the great state of. missouri?

She was an early supporter of obama. She's like some of the other women in power (e.g., Sebelius) -- they try to come off like someone's mom when all the while they are cut throat left wing democRATS.

[aruanan]

Malcolm X on the right?

Barry, even now, like Dorian Gray, has not yet started to show his dissipation. It's sad how soon it happened for Malcolm Little.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Obama knows it is just a matter of time before he is exposed, but he has a couple of cards he has to play before he brings about the destruction of the United States.

I have no doubt that this healthcare bill will be rammed down our throats, and that Obama has waiting in the wings even more socialist programs that this nation cannot pay for. Watch for them to be fast tracked as well.

But the two that are going to break this country are amenesty for illegal aliens and reparations for slavery.

He has been holding back on reparations and amnesty because they will be played just before he is forced to step down with in a month of any sort of disclosure you will start to hear talk about them from all the usual sources.”

Very well written and worth repeating.

This info will take him out.

1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent’s marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. Access to his grandmother (Obama’s grandmother has since passed away from cancer)
18. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
19. Punahou grade school records

[RegulatorCountry]

However, there is NO argument that Congress has the ability to pass laws concerning citizenship, both NATURALIZATION and NATURAL BORN!

There is no argument that Congress was enumerated the power of anything pertaining to citizenship other than naturalization.

It is written in plain English in the Constitution itself.

Naturalized is not natural born.

Any dependence upon statutory law, to determine natural born citizen status is erroneous for this reason.

The Constitution makes the distinction, and the only distinction the Constitution makes is in regard to eligiblity for the office of President. Read Osborn v. Bank Of U.S. for one example of the Supreme Court's ruling on the matter.

[American_Centurion]

I would think the antichrist would not be such an incompetent boob.

If one were to be the up-and-coming antichrist, not yet fully revealed so to speak, wouldn't the cover of "incompetent boob" be just about perfect for flying under the radar? /tinfoil ; )

[3D-JOY]

Citizenship for illegals and reparations might be the final straw for conservative Americans.

Maybe all the missing records would finally take on an importance to the country...? NO, I guess we already know!

[Kansas58]

And, by the way, I have said REPEATEDLY on these threads that “Natural Born” is the OPPOSITE of “Naturalized” as far as the types of citizenship we have in this country.

Why you want to bring up “Naturalized” in your rants against me is a bit perplexing, as I fully agree that nobody who is a “Naturalized” Citizen is qualified to be POTUS. I further agree that no “retro active” act of Congress can qualify someone, for POTUS.

I believe that you must be a citizen, from the moment of birth, under the laws in place at that time, to qualify for POTUS.

There are others who feel that there are even more restrictions. I follow those arguments, I understand those arguments. I do NOT thing those arguments will hold up.

(And, many of the people making those arguments are far more coherent and knowledgeable than you.)