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2010 Census to Count Illegal Aliens
WSJ/The Lid ^ | 8/9/09 | The Lid

Posted on 08/09/2009 8:24:16 PM PDT by Shellybenoit

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.) (The previous sentence in parentheses was modified by the 14th Amendment, section 2.) The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each )State shall have at Least one Representative....

With those words our founding fathers created the US Census. The number that creates congressional districts, doles out state entitlement programs, and other federal programs. It creates the statistics on lifestyle and income that the government (and many businesses) run on.

For the over 220 years our constitutional government has existed, the only part of our government that has not been corrupted by politics is the US Census. That will all change this time, because as it stands now, the 2010 census will include Illegal Aliens.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Sports
KEYWORDS: 2010census; agenda; census; constitution; democrats; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; uscensus

1 posted on 08/09/2009 8:24:16 PM PDT by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

This is what happens when you allow the government to throw out the Constitution.


2 posted on 08/09/2009 8:27:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Proud member of "The Angry Mob" Est. April 19, 1775)
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To: Shellybenoit

The WSJ has always been a big cheerleader of illegals. I finally had it with them and cancelled.

Obama will use this census against us. Anyone know if any of this is UnConstitutional?


3 posted on 08/09/2009 8:29:48 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Shellybenoit

2010 Election Polls to Count Illegal Aliens


4 posted on 08/09/2009 8:30:23 PM PDT by Son House (President Øbama Turns His Back On The Oppressed During Their Darkest Hours)
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To: Shellybenoit

Illegal aliens were counted in 2000, and probably in earlier censuses. Everyone that could be found in 2000 was counted, and there were no citizenship questions.

And a similar issue came up then. Dems wanted to increase the counts by some statistical method for illegal aliens who supposedly were missed, or who deliberately avoided the census. Such adjustments for missed illegals were not made in 2000.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 8:32:41 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Shellybenoit

I hope people understand what this will lead to.

There will now be court cases against the validity of representatives to congress based upon an unconstitutional means of establishing representation.

It will become a dividing factor between states, pitting one state against another as the squabble over federal distribution of revenues escalates to a level never seen before.

Liberal dominant counties and states which contribute little or nothing to the federal pie will be able to hord more and more wealth from conservative productive counties and states... to a point where states will seriously consider their sovereignty legislative options. It could even lead to civil war.

This is precisely why the constitution originally forbade the collection of taxes from individuals... to prevent the type of consolidation of wealth which naturally leads to the corruption and abuse of power.

The 16th amendment fatally ignores the wisdom of our founding fathers.


6 posted on 08/09/2009 8:36:47 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Shellybenoit

Counting illegals has already given California 4 to 6 extra congressmen.


7 posted on 08/09/2009 8:45:21 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Shellybenoit
2010 Census to Count Illegal Aliens

FYI.., ALL previous Census Enumerations have as well! Having been involved in conducting these, while questions are asked as to WHERE YOU WERE BORN..., questions are also asked as to your current citizenship. Thus, regardless of the answers..., population (and thus Congressional districting) are determined!

8 posted on 08/09/2009 8:46:25 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This is what happens when you allow the government to throw out the Constitution.

Kinda like when SCOTUS appointees are judged more on their geneology versus their allegiance to this country or its Constitution?

9 posted on 08/09/2009 8:47:26 PM PDT by This_far
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is what happens when Rahm, Odumbass and Axelgrease steal the census from the Dept. of Commerce and America’s b*tch for a day or two and do nothing.


10 posted on 08/09/2009 8:54:53 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe

Imaguine if they were greased..


11 posted on 08/09/2009 9:01:44 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Shellybenoit

It’ll be hard to do an *actual enumeration* of people that evade authority figures, especially when those figures asking a lot of nosey questions.


12 posted on 08/09/2009 9:04:13 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Frantzie

TAKEBACK THE CENSUS FROM OBAMA’S THUGS
ACORN CENSUS TAKERS WILL TARGET ILLEGALS TO HYPE REDISTRICTING FOR DEMS

ACTION——EMAIL thomas.l.mesenbourg.jr@census.gov
Thomas L Mesenbourg, acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau

MESSAGE Demand that Mr Mesenbourg supply all ACORN census takers with the main tel number for ICE....1-866-347-2423. Mr Mesenbourg must understand it is the legal obligation of US citizens (and census takers) to report an illegal alien’s presence and employment. Notification of wrongdoing compels enforcement action....AND COMPLIANCE.

MESSAGE The census should provide penetrating census forms for illegal aliens. How many identities they are using, multiple precincts in which they are registered to vote, how many welfare checks, UI checks, disability checks, EITC refunds each illegal is pocketing. How many sub-prime mortgage loans they stuck US citizens with. Income from dealing drugs and other income not reported to the IRS. Specific orders they received from foreign governments -—or their agents-—to defraud the US census.

Mesenbourg would be violating the law if he did not advise census takers that it is a US citizen’s lawful obligation to report an illegal alien’s presence and place of employment. All census takers should be provided with the phone number for ICE (TOLL FREE 1-866-347-2423).

Immigration law that requires that aliens be documented for legal entry. (1) Those who sneak into the country are referred to as `entry without inspection (EWI). (2)
Others enter with legal documentation and then violate the terms on which they have been admitted by taking jobs that are not authorized or overstaying the authorized period of stay in the country.

NOTE WELL Both types of illegal immigrants are deportable under Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) which says: Any alien who is present in
the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable. If you have evidence of illegal immigration, contact the main DHS

Hotline for assistance. 1 866 DHS - 2ICE (or) 1-866-347-2423. SOURCE: FAIR.org

ACTION Contact Thomas Mesenbourg, acting director of the US Census Bureau
EMAIL thomas.l.mesenbourg.jr@census.gov


13 posted on 08/09/2009 9:57:48 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: Safrguns
And I for one, think this is right up Osama/Obama/Hussein's ally...the more discord and confusion he can cause, the better he likes it....as while we're intent on that, he and his other thugs are busy doing Heaven knows what, on the sly.....this guy and the ones pulling his strings know exactly what they are doing and all is going exactly as they planned it....it's not stupidity on their part that the financial status of our country is in the pits....there was no miscalculation on their part...it was all deliberate, as is everything else they are doing....we are being taken over by PURE CALCULATED EVIL. May our good Lord come to our rescue and save our nation....tho we , as a culture have turned our back on Him...
14 posted on 08/09/2009 10:56:13 PM PDT by Molly T. (Has this administration crossed YOUR line in the sand yet?)
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To: Shellybenoit

How can you count people that are not hear legally? The Socialist/Communist Democratic party are trying to still this country from it capitalist roots and turn it into a tyrannical government. This needs to be challenged in the courts.


15 posted on 08/10/2009 12:01:31 AM PDT by Sprite518
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