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Of Course We're Not Going To Pay Back The Chinese- Peter Schiff
The Daily Bail ^ | 08/09/09 | Peter Schiff

Posted on 08/09/2009 12:26:56 PM PDT by shortstop

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KEYWORDS: china; chinese; debt; doommonger; funnymoney; peterschiff; schiff
It's worth three minutes of your time to hear Peter Schiff tell us about the Messiah's dilemna.
1 posted on 08/09/2009 12:26:56 PM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop
Well Duhh ... This administration including the Congress, does not planning on paying back a penny of what is borrowed. This is why they are spending like there is no tomorrow. Take cash for clunkers, they say 2 billion, payback with interest 6 billion, are they going to pay 6 billion for some long gone expense? Hell no. Long term debt should only be taken out for assets that hold their value. Everyone in Congress and Obama has been taught this, but they do not care.
2 posted on 08/09/2009 12:34:55 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: shortstop
Here's the problem with Mister Shiff's routine: we cannot pay the debt with cash, so someone is going to eventually assert in a democrat oligarchy that we must pay the debt back with property and resource rights held in 'federal lands'. The federal oligarchy (we are no longer a Constitutional Republic) cannot ween itself from using credit to fund everything, so when no one wants to buy our bonds/notes, we will have sincere politicans insisting we must grant title to federal lands/resources to dissolve the standing debt so further credit can be obtained.
3 posted on 08/09/2009 12:37:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Sounds logical, but asking for clarification -— meaning we could hand over Yellowstone to China for instance?

I find that not unimaginable.


4 posted on 08/09/2009 12:41:46 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: squarebarb

If that happens I’d think some politicians would be thankful to get away with tar and feathering.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 12:48:32 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: squarebarb

No, Yellowstone doesn’t have the buried resources the Chicoms would demand. Look at the oil shale and coal lands now locked up in federal lnad management. THAT is where our debt is collateralized.


6 posted on 08/09/2009 12:49:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

But we can pay in cash. We simply print the money and give it to them. They’ll have to spend a lot of here in the U S.

parsy, who is staying awake nights worrying abut the Chinese debt.


7 posted on 08/09/2009 12:53:24 PM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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To: shortstop

The plan is to inflate away our National debt... and we wonder why the Chinese are trying to diversify in commodities.


8 posted on 08/09/2009 12:53:45 PM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: parsifal

There was a time when we could inflate our way out of debt. But now the GDP and the debt are too far apart. I believe it was planned that way and Bush began the destruction, knowingly or unwittingly under Paulson’s watchful dictation. We are and have been since 1913 a debtor nation, controlled by very much ‘bigger’ banking dictators. We are being incorporated into a world system just over the horizon ... well, it was over the horizon until we were herded into bankruptcy and the existence of the already printed currency was revealed.


9 posted on 08/09/2009 12:58:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; squarebarb

The Chicoms are already buying Kennicot and other mining companies. They are right now systematically buying large positions in manufacturing, production, mining and energy.

We are starting to work for them.


10 posted on 08/09/2009 1:01:03 PM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: MHGinTN

We owe China about 800 Billion. We could print that. Heck, we spent that much on higher gas prices back during the speculator driven price run up.

China ain’t the real problem. I would tell you the real problem, but its Sunday and I don’t want to ruin the day off for freeperdom.

parsy, who’s betting the printing presses will start to work overtime.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 1:08:06 PM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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To: shortstop

History can be instructive. In the final century of the Roman Empire, rulers held on by selling their country’s assets - land, cities, farmland, slaves ... liquidating what had been built up for hundreds of years for the simple purpose of enabling the last rulers to hold on to as much power and privilege as they could, for as long as they could, in their shrinking empire’s last years.

Not a pretty picture to contemplate. Outside of the ruling elite, life became hell for the people living in the former Roman empire.


12 posted on 08/09/2009 1:20:27 PM PDT by JustTheTruth (Say "NO!" to Socialism in America!)
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To: shortstop

D.D. Eisenhower didn’t give a crap either.


13 posted on 08/09/2009 1:23:59 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: shortstop

He**, CA won’t even honor their IOUs, what makes the Chinese think we will honor our debt to them?


14 posted on 08/09/2009 2:25:39 PM PDT by calex59
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To: JustTheTruth

Yes, and one of Rome’s biggest mistakes was not integrating people into their society. They did at first and then they became arrogant and kept different countries citizens from becoming citizens of Rome. They expanded to far and had a “multicultural” society. This eventually did them in.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 2:27:40 PM PDT by calex59
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To: MHGinTN

We could just invite any foreigner with, say, $10M in cash to emigrate. Get enough Chinese to emigrate and it solves the problem. Lots of entrepreneurs and engineers we could use.

Seriously, markets work these things out. So if the Chinese don’t buy more bonds then the Fed govt. will have to offer a higher interest rate. At some point the interest on debt which is a line item in the federal budget becomes so high that they cannot borrow more.

In the end, the world free market for debt will DISCIPLINE Obama and Co. They just cannot spend as much as they want to. In fact, with tax revenue plummetting, I think they will have to CUT spending whether they like it or not. As for the Federal Reserve, it is private and may NOT do Obama’s bidding if the Fed thinks that hyperinflation is on the way.


16 posted on 08/09/2009 2:34:19 PM PDT by darth
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We could just invite any foreigner with, say, $10M in cash to emigrate. Get enough Chinese to emigrate and it solves the problem. Lots of entrepreneurs and engineers we could use.

I think this is a terrific idea. When Hong Kong was taken over by ChiComs Canada offered asylem and emigration for Hong Kong citizens with a million dollars and a plan. Vancouver is doing pretty well. Most countries like New zealand, and Switzerland require large cash reserves for immigrants.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 3:01:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: squarebarb

Alaska


18 posted on 08/09/2009 6:33:22 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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