CVN Naming – Enough With the Politics Already

Steeljaw Scribe ^ | 26 July 09 | Steeljawscribe

[CaptRon]

ohhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooo. I’m in New York’s Lower Hudson Valley. 30 miles north of the Rotten Apple (in fact worked there). But the mothball fleet was about 3 miles from where i live now. Mostly liberty ships. They were eventually all scrapped, but were kept for a while after Korea. Impressive to see as a kid. Amost shore to shore, tied abeam of each other.

[buccaneer81]

Wow. I mixed you up with another FReeper. But you do know your stuff. Been in your “real” neck of the woods many times, too.

[tanknetter]

I heard the Obama DOD was already planning to skip the planned refueling of the Lincoln and sending it to early retirement as part of the DOD budget cuts. That was several months ago so I don't know where that stands.

Lincoln's refueling is already scheduled, and Everett is fighting hard to make sure she comes back once its complete: link

[tanknetter]

The last thing that moved out of there was the USS New Jersey on its way to 'Nam. Saw it from my senior English class!

You sure it was the Hudson River? NJ spent her mothball years between Korea and Vietnam in Philly, tied up alongside Iowa and Wisconsin and was reactivated in the old Philadelphia Navy Yard on the Delaware Rive. You might have seen her doing a port call before heading out to the Pacific ...

[CaptRon]

Hah!. Nice here. I live right on river. Their about to dredge up the PCBs that have been covered by silt for 30years. Why? ‘Cuz Bobby Kennedy, Jr. said so. He cited his Phd. in Chemistry. At least I think he did.

[CaptRon]

Hah!. Nice here. I live right on river. Their about to dredge up the PCBs that have been covered by silt for 30years. Why? ‘Cuz Bobby Kennedy, Jr. said so. He cited his Phd. in Chemistry. At least I think he did.

[Al B.]

Thanks. I know that at one time during the budget process, that was under consideration. My brother works for the Navy and sent me something on it.

Glad to know rationality prevailed and people won't be laid off in Newport News because of a hole in their refueling operation.

[CaptRon]

Pretty sure. It was 4 years ago! I remember something that could have been nothing but a battleship. Always thought it was the Jersey. Could be wrong. I know there were at least 2 battleships moored up there.

[CaptRon]

Have to ask my dad. He worked there as an electrician maintaining the ships after he was discharged from Korea.

[tanknetter]

What year are you thinking of, and do you mean on the NJ side of the River (Bayonne)?



IIRC Washington and North Carolina were there until the early 1960s. In the picture above, the two long ships moored abreast at the head (right side) of the line (with a third smaller ship outboard) are the two Alaska-Class Large Cruisers (which could be mistaken for Battleships). Behind them are the Washington and North Carolina, followed by some other smaller ships and then two carriers. The carrier at the far left is Enterprise, the second from left is an Essex (not sure which one).

[CaptRon]

No.Around 1955 on the Hudson River in Stony Point, just south of West Point at a place called Grassy Point. Between rockland County and Westchester County

[B-Chan]

As an ENTERPRISE sailor, I obviously agree. However, I don't want the proud name attached to just any old carrier. CVN-65 was a revolutionary vessel, and the name should be reserved for an equally-revolutionary successor, like the first space battleship or something.

In the meantime, let's go back to giving carriers kickass names. You know, something like USS MANIFEST DESTINY or USS MAILED FIST -- something with an air of real menace.

B-chan
Former MM3
USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65)
GONAVY

[CaptRon]

No.Around 1955 on the Hudson River in Stony Point, just south of West Point at a place called Grassy Point. Between rockland County and Westchester County

http://www.aandc.org/research/hudson_ghost_fleet.html

Just read this. I question its accuracy.sorry link not formatted.

[buccaneer81]

‘Cuz Bobby Kennedy, Jr. said so. He cited his Phd. in Chemistry. At least I think he did.

LOL! Almost every lawyer, especially "celebrity" lawyers think that they know other disciplines. Just look at all the lawyers who think they are MDs and shrinks. The Kennedy arrogance simply plays into that.

[allmendream]

The seamen on the hypothetical USS Clinton should always deboard on a blue dress.

[CaptRon]

I was tied up behind his "Riverkeeper" at my marina, getting gas. It was a scow, probable leaking more crap than any other boat there.

But, hey! You know who I am (he was not aboard but you coud feel the attitude).

[Pan_Yan]

The Enterprise has eight reactors, a triple hull and armored plated stern. It came with all the options. The story is that Admiral Rickover did not want a nuclear powered carrier. So he made sure it was really, really expensive. So expensive that CV-66 and CV-67 were conventional.

As a side note, at full speed the shaft from #3 engineroom has so much torque on it that it is twisted one and one half turns from the gears to the prop.

[tanknetter]

No.Around 1955 on the Hudson River in Stony Point, just south of West Point at a place called Grassy Point. Between rockland County and Westchester County

Fascinating, thanks! I have a couple books on the various ghost fleets. Stony Point (or Hudson River Basin) is mentioned, but all I could find was one small picture of some lesser auxiliaries (not even the larger ones shown in your link).

[CaptRon]

As a kid I remember it as huge. And like I said, my dad had worked there. He worked on the Missouri as an electriian before he was drafted (yes, drated( into the Navy. He wanted to be a SeeBea when he got in, but even after being an electrician building the Missouuri he couldn;t: colorblind! He went on to serve in the Phillipenes and Korea as a storekeeper.

[tanknetter]

Found another picture of the Stony Point fleet. Looks like all auxiliaries or cargo ships