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Turn In Obama for Suspicious Activity!
NetRight Nation ^ | August 4, 2009 | Adam Bitely

Posted on 08/04/2009 12:03:29 PM PDT by NetRight Nation

Obama is asking for us to report suspicious reports on Health Care. Essentially, he wants to find who is behind reporting the truth on his proposed socialized medicine. From the White House:

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov

He is asking everyone to email this address with tips: flag@whitehouse.gov

Here is what we need to do. Email that address reporting Barack Obama for not telling the truth on Health Care. Let's try and flood that inbox with as many reports about Obama and his minions attempting to deceive the public as possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at netrightnation.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: asocialistamerica; government; healthcare; healthers; obama; obamacare; obamunism
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1 posted on 08/04/2009 12:03:30 PM PDT by NetRight Nation
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To: NetRight Nation
And do it from a brand new, throw away email addy from Hotmail.....two birds with one stone.
2 posted on 08/04/2009 12:05:26 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: NetRight Nation

“Someone is trying to highjack my country and turn it into a miserable socialist hell hole. I want it back.”


3 posted on 08/04/2009 12:06:18 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: NetRight Nation
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov He is asking everyone to email this address with tips: flag@whitehouse.gov

The government that knew no limits.

4 posted on 08/04/2009 12:07:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

I sent my email reporting Obama for lying and also told them I knew of a lot of other people who were saying that he was hiding his birth certificate, if they wanted those names... but it would be in the high thousands...


5 posted on 08/04/2009 12:07:47 PM PDT by bareford101 (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: NetRight Nation

The Healthers want you to name names and reveal who is writing the checks to fund the protests.


6 posted on 08/04/2009 12:07:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: NetRight Nation

Wow! The thought police from 1984!

Awww, poor baby doesn’t like criticism.


7 posted on 08/04/2009 12:08:12 PM PDT by kingpins10
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To: rightwingextremist1776

And do it from a brand new, throw away email addy from Hotmail.
________________________________________________

Sign up for it behind a proxy condom. Post with it behind one, too.


8 posted on 08/04/2009 12:08:54 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: NetRight Nation
Parsons unlike Syms does not display the slightest gleam of intelligence, his line is stolid obedience and Winston marks him out as one of the survivors. He collects some money from Winston as a subscription to conducting Hate Week in their building and proceeds to boast about the “achievements” of his horrible children. They had tracked a man down and handed him over to the thought police as a traitor on the sole ground that he was wearing strange looking shoes and had set fire to a woman’s clothes because she wrapped a parcel in a poster of big Brother. Finally, they had been eavesdropping at their parent’s bedroom door with a listening device to see if any thoughtcrime remarks were made. All of these are presented by Parsons as exploits of which he is very proud!

-- George Orwell "1984"

9 posted on 08/04/2009 12:08:59 PM PDT by NMEwithin
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Rush was strongly hinting at doing this on his show today. He kept reading the email over and talking about how the whitehouse really “Wanted our Input”
10 posted on 08/04/2009 12:10:19 PM PDT by apillar
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To: NetRight Nation

You’re all a bunch of lying commie hacks and you’re going down!

Fishy enough for ya?


11 posted on 08/04/2009 12:11:56 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: NetRight Nation

I have three I’d like to report:

http://www.whitehouse.gov
http://www.house.gov
http://www.senate.gov


12 posted on 08/04/2009 12:12:21 PM PDT by AnglePark
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To: kingpins10

13 posted on 08/04/2009 12:12:35 PM PDT by Wardenclyffe
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To: NetRight Nation

I sent it and then changed the reference and then resent several more times...

brown shirts are not going to take me down without a fight


14 posted on 08/04/2009 12:13:16 PM PDT by bareford101 (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: NetRight Nation
If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov

We should flood this email address with facts straight from the socialist health care bill.
15 posted on 08/04/2009 12:14:35 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: bareford101

Let me throw this question out for responses.
Is it now time for a 10 million [white]man march on Washington? United, we can make the Million Man March look like a Sunday School Picnic. What do you think?
Personally, I have had it up to my neck and the water line is getting real close to my nose.


16 posted on 08/04/2009 12:15:50 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: NetRight Nation

Please, everyone, send this to Beck, Drudge, OReilly...

You know the drill.

This won’t go down well with the public, especially after that “we now own your computer” thing Beck just brought to light.


18 posted on 08/04/2009 12:17:20 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: NetRight Nation; LucyT

BO Tox is definitely NOT a 1st amendment Pretend President.

Let them read this:

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The “Impossible” Healthcare Solution: Go Back to Cash (July 29, 2009)

The expansion of health insurance and government entitlements created “free money” and thus the explosion of healthcare costs. The solution is simple and “impossible”: we all pay cash.

Here’s why healthcare (a.k.a. sick-care) costs cannot be reduced; the entire system is based on vast pools of “free money.” The corporate-America or union/government employee who goes to the doctor pays a few dollars for a visit and drugs; the “real cost” is of no concern. Ditto the “real costs” charged to Medicare and Medicaid.
The link between the “consumer” of healthcare and the provider has been broken for decades. There is no “free market” in healthcare—there isn’t any market at all. We live in a Kafka-esque nightmare system in which “some are more equal than others” and hundreds of thousands of dollars are lavished on worthless tests, procedures and medications for two reasons:

1. because there’s “free money” to pay the bills

2. so-called “defensive medicine” in which worthless tests are administered to stave off random (sometimes valid, sometimes nuisance) malpractice lawsuits.

There is a solution so simple and so radical that it is “impossible” (and of course you’re reading it here): shut down insurance and all government entitlements, and return to the “golden era” of the 1950s when everyone paid cash for healthcare.

Here are the costs of childbirth as of 1952 at one of the finest hospitals on the West Coast, The Santa Monica Hospital:

And here are the obstetrical rates:

Having a baby cost $30, which is today’s dollars is $244. A private deluxe room cost $23 or $187 in today’s dollars. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistic’s inflation calculator, $1 in 1952 is $8.14 in 2009 dollars.

What does it cost to have a baby now? $10,000? Or is it $25,000? Who even knows?

I know all the reasons why “costs had to skyrocket”: we’re getting so much better care now, right? Actually, as measured by death rates and any other metric you want to select, there is simply no way to justify a 40-fold increase (or is it 100-fold?) in medical care costs. The returns on all the “miracles of modern medicine” are in fact exceedingly marginal— but nobody wants to talk about that.

In 1952, if something awful happened and a patient died, here was the response: “We’re very sorry.” Families weren’t outraged; they expected people to die and interventions were not expected to be miraculous every single time. Doctor Kildaire and all his imitators on TV had not brainwashed the public into reckoning that if someone died, a mistake had been made. They also hadn’t been brainwashed by the mental disorder known as “the American Legal System” into thinking that in every possible circumstance in life, there is liability, and the only question is where to pin it for the big bucks jackpot.

Stories about people suing doctors and hospitals for 5 times the value of a house ($1 million in today’s money would have been $120,000 in 1952, when you could buy a nice house for $20,000) simply did not exist in the 1950s. The cultural mindset that someone somewhere must be at fault and it’s a “right” to go after them did not exist. Since insurance was limited, there was no “free money jackpot” to go after, either.

I know you’re probably outraged at the suggestion that “modern safety nets” of insurance and entitlements are the cause of our ills, but follow this idea through:

With no insurance or government program to bill vast sums, then every clinic, doctor and hospital in the U.S. would instantly go broke. Someone would pick up the pieces for $1 or whatever the auction price happened to be and start charging people $50 for a visit to the doctor—not a “co-pay” which was accompanied by a bill for $500 or $1,500 or $15,000 to an insurance company or the government, but $50 cash—that would be the total cost. People might decide they did not need to see the doctor every time they got the sniffles. They might ask the doctor if an MRI was really going to help diagnose their problem or if it was gilding the lily.

As for malpractice, maybe the clinics/hospitals would be non-profits. Go ahead and sue the bejabbers out of them—they have no insurance and no cash. Go ahead and win a huge settlement: you’ll never collect because there’s simply no money. The non-profit folds and another one buys the clinic for $1. With no giant pot of “free money” to pillage, the pillaging goes away. Hospitals which sought stupendous profits would presumably charge more, and hence would have fewer customers. It would be up to the consumer.

The solution to malpractice is information, not lawsuits. Based on my conversations with the M.D.’s who frequent this site, here are some simple policy/regulatory steps which would have very low end costs:

1. License all M.D.’s nationally so they don’t need to go through the absurd waste of time and money being licensed in multiple states.

2. Make all information on clinics, hositals, surgeries, etc. public on the Web. Those doctors willing to take on the very ill will have more patients die than those who avoid the risky cases; it will be up to consumers to sort out the track record of the people who they choose to hire to attend to their health.

Something magical would happen to prices: they would drop to what people could afford to pay cash. Yes, those wonderful folks in the pharmaceutical industry could list their drugs for $10,000 a dose, but few would be buyers. Just as in other countries with no “free money” to tap, the price of that drug would quickly drop to $50. That, or the pharmaceutical companies can go bankrupt and let others fill the vaccum.

What would happen is simple: marginal care would vanish because few would be willing to pay for it. The cost of an MRI in China is a tiny percentage of the cost of an MRI in the U.S., and the machine and training of the technicians is the same; so why does it cost 25 times more for an MRI here? Because there’s a pot of “free money” available to tap.

If the entire system collapsed and everyone paid cash, the cost of an MRI would be $100 or so, regardless of any other conditions. Or, the owners of the MRI machines could declare bankruptcy, sell the machines at auction and let someone else provide the service to those who decided it was worth the expense.

But what about the “poor people” who can’t afford medical care now? Well right now they have to stand in line at emergency rooms—the most wasteful, inefficient system possible. Even “poor people” can afford a few dollars—there’s endless excuses provided yet how many “poor people” have cell phones, eat costly fast-food, do costly illegal drugs, etc. etc. Everybody has choices; we’re not all deranged, and for those who are deranged, then clearly the government will have a role in their care when it exceeds the capacity of their family or if they have no family.

Everybody’s got an excuse in our current system, and perhaps that’s why it is morally and financially bankrupt. The U.S. (and certainly not Santa Monica) was not a Third World nation in 1952; people did not feel their healthcare was deficient or poor. There was simply no money to pursue marginal returns except perhaps for a few millionaires seeking exotic treatments. Fine, it’s their money; most died right along with the rest of us and at about the same lifespan.

As for “overall health” of the populace: what with the “diabesity” epidemic out of control due entirely to lifestyle changes, it’s hard to say we’ve gotten 50 times healthier as a result of our healthcare costs rising 50-fold.

When it comes right down to it, the current system is based on this premise: the average American is too dumb to figure out healthcare for themselves and so we need a gigantic structure of “experts” to figure out what should be done and what it should cost. It’s not even really “insurance” because everyone gets old, ill and then dies.

This has resulted in the most brutally inefficient and even cruel system possible, one in which the very elderly are milked for hundreds of thousands of dollars of “healthcare” in the last days or weeks of their lives while tens of millions get no care at all except at the emergency room. Since no one takes responsibility for their own health or healthcare costs, then people take poor care of themselves and thus many of our ills are self-inflicted. People save little to nothing for emergencies because they’ve learned to expect someone, somewhere, to pay for their healthcare. (It’s a “right.” Really? At whose expense? The Chinese who buy our debt?)

I know, I know—going to a market/cash system is “impossible.” But the irony is that’s where we’ll be in a few years, regardless of what anyone thinks or wants: “healthcare” in its present incarnation will bankrupt the nation just as surely as the sun rises.

Charles Hugh Smith

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogjuly09/healthcare07-09.html


19 posted on 08/04/2009 12:24:11 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: NMEwithin

I sent this in:

The Thought Police (thinkpol in Newspeak) are the secret police of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four whose job it is to uncover and punish thoughtcrime. The Thought Police use psychologyand omnipresent surveillance to find and eliminate members of society who are capable of the mere thought of challenging ruling authority.[2]

The Thought Police of Orwell and their pursuit of thoughtcrime were based on the methods used by the totalitarian states and competing ideologies of the 20th century. It also had much to do with, as Orwell called it, the “power of facing unpleasant facts,” and his willingness to criticize prevailing ideas which brought him into conflict with others and their “smelly little orthodoxies.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime


20 posted on 08/04/2009 12:26:47 PM PDT by villagerjoel (1. Implement socialist policies 2. ??? 3. Heaven on earth)
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