National Review Online Reopens Birth Certificate Debate After Trashing "Birthers" On Tuesday

This past Tuesday, the conservative National Review Online published an editorial, "Born In The USA" trashing the so-called "birthers" for continuing to demand that President Barack Obama produce his original birth certificate, not just the "Certification of Live Birth" issued only in 2007 that his campaign posted on the Internet during last year's campaign. The editorial read, in part:

Much foolishness has become attached to the question of President Obama’s place of birth, and a few misguided souls among the Right have indulged it. The myth that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president represents the hunt for a magic bullet that will make all the unpleasant complications of his election and presidency disappear. We are used to seeing conspiracy theories from the Left, for instance among the one in three Democrats who believe that 9/11 was an inside job conducted with the foreknowledge of the Bush administration. We’ve seen everything under the sun blamed on Dick Cheney and Halliburton, and Rosie O’Donnell has given us much mirth with her metallurgical expertise, while Andrew Sullivan has beclowned himself and tarnished the good name of The Atlantic with his investigation into the “real” parentage of Trig Palin. Most notable, the Iraq War summoned the craziness in a big way, and there are those who still shudder over their espressos at the mention of the Carlyle Group. And there is a fair amount of crossover between those fixated on Obama’s birth certificate and the 9/11 “truthers” — lawyer Phil Berg, for instance, is a player in both worlds. There is nothing that President Obama’s coterie would enjoy more than to see the responsible Right become a mirror image of the loopy Left circa 2003.

A couple of days later, NRO contibuting editor Andrew McCarthy reignited the entire debate with a story entitled, "Suborned in the USA," which calls on Obama to release the birth certificate the mainstream media has told us he already released during last year's campaign. McCarthy now says "the controversy is about Obama's honesty, not where he is born." Speaking of his campaign's misleading statements about his Muslim heritage, McCarthy writes, "He airbrushed his personal story on the fly", after deciding it was "a net negative." In sharp contrast to Tuesday's editorial, McCarthy acknowledges the question of Obama's natural born citizenship is an open debate, even accepting his birth in the USA. "He was also born a Kenyan citizen," McCarthy writes. "In theory, that could raise a question about whether he qualifies as a 'natural born' American--an unchartered constitutional concept," he notes.

The Tuesday editorial mistakenly asserted in reference to the "Certification of Live Birth" issued by the Obama campaign that "[t]here is no secondary document cloaked in darkness . . . " McCarthy now admits that was "an ill-considered assertion." He notes that the "Certification of Live Birth" is simply a short-form, general attestation issued by Hawaii's Department of Health. The original state records are far more detailed. As McCarthy now explains:

They include, for example, the name of the hospital, institution, or street address where the birth occurred; the full name, age, birthplace, race, and occupation of each parent; the mother’s residential address (and whether that address is within the city or town of birth); the signature of at least one parent (or “informant”) attesting to the accuracy of the information provided; the identity and signature of an attending physician (or other “attendant”) who certifies the occurrence of a live birth at the time and place specified; and the identity and signature of the local registrar who filed the birth record.

Plainly, this is different (additional) information from what is included in the certification. Yet, our editorial says that “several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president’s birth certificate [by which we clearly meant ‘certification’],” and that the “director of Hawaii’s health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obama’s birth certificate [i.e., certification] is identical to that in the state’s records, the so-called vault copy.” (Italics mine.)

That misses the point. The information in the certification may be identical as far as it goes to what’s in the complete state records, but there are evidently many more details in the state records than are set forth in the certification. Contrary to the editors’ description, those who want to see the full state record — the certificate or the so-called “vault copy” — are not on a wild-goose chase for a “secondary document cloaked in darkness.” That confuses their motives (which vary) with what they’ve actually requested (which is entirely reasonable). Regardless of why people may want to see the vault copy, what’s been requested is a primary document that is materially more detailed than what Obama has thus far provided. Now, on that "honesty" thing. McCarthy then retraces some of the points I've made about Obama creating a fairytale life through two autobiographies "chock full of fiction." McCarthy highlights the completely fictitious story Obama retold about his first job out of college in "Dreams From My Father", dedicated to a father who abandoned him when he was two years old. "What's unnerving about this is that it is so gratuitous," McCarthy writes. "It would have made no difference to anyone curious about Obama’s life that he, like most of us, took a ho-hum entry-level job to establish himself," McCarthy writes. "But Obama lies about the small things, the inconsequential things, just as he does about the important ones — depending on what he is trying to accomplish at any given time."

McCarthy expresses frustration with the news media. "Astonishingly, reporters see their job not as reporting Obama news but as debunking Obama news, or flat-out suppressing it," McCarthy laments. "How many Americans know, for example, that as a sitting U.S. senator in 2006, Obama interfered in a Kenyan election, publicly ripping the incumbent government (a U.S. ally) for corruption while he was its guest and barnstorming with his preferred candidate: a Marxist now known to have made a secret agreement with Islamists to convert Kenya to sharia law, and whose supporters, upon losing the election, committed murder and mayhem, displacing thousands of Kenyans and plunging their country into utter chaos?"

McCarthy then goes on to discuss a point I've raised on numerous occasions that seems to escape the interest of everyone else in the media: the adoption of Obama by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, and Obama's acquisition of Indonesian citizenship. Although Obama's campaign denied he was adopted by Soetoro, his own mother's divorce records suggest otherwise according to McCarthy. "That inference is bolstered by the 1980 divorce submission of Ann Dunham and Lolo Soetoro, filed in Hawaii state court," McCarthy writes. "It said 'the parties' (Ann and Lolo) had a child (name not given) who was no longer a minor (Obama was 19 at the time)." He adds, "If Soetoro had not adopted Obama, there would have been no basis for the couple to refer to Obama as their child — he’d have been only Ann Dunham’s child."

McCarthy also acknowledges that Obama's school records in Indonesia indicate that he was enrolled in both public schools and a Catholic school as a Muslim. McCarthy observes how that Muslim heritage was a good thing back in 2007 when Obama first began his run for president but by last year that all changed. McCarthy points out that his sister, Maya Soetoro, told the New York Times: "My entire family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." "In fact, back in March 2007 — i.e., during the early 'Islamic ties are good' phase of Obama’s campaign — the candidate wistfully shared with New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof his memories of the muezzin’s Arabic call to prayer: 'one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset,'" McCarthy writes. "Kristof marveled at the “first-rate accent” with which Obama was able to repeat its opening lines."

So McCarthy finds himself asking just why Obama won't release that original birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health:

There may be perfectly benign answers to all of this. But the real question is: Why don’t the media — the watchdog legions who trekked to Sarah Palin’s Alaska hometown to scour for every kernel of gossip, and who were so desperate for Bush dirt that they ran with palpably forged military records — want to dig into Obama’s background?

Who cares that Hawaii’s full state records would doubtless confirm what we already know about Obama’s birthplace? They would also reveal interesting facts about Obama’s life: the delivering doctor, how his parents described themselves, which of them provided the pertinent information, etc. Wasn’t the press once in the business of interesting — and even not-so-interesting — news?

And why would Obama not welcome Hawaii’s release of any record in its possession about the facts and circumstances of his birth? Isn’t that kind of weird? It would, after all, make the whole issue go away and, if there’s nothing there, make those who’ve obsessed over it look like fools. Why should I need any better reason to be curious than Obama’s odd resistance to so obvious a resolution? McCarthy also briefly discusses what No Quarter's Larry Johnson has previous discussed about the real reason Obama doesn't want the original birth certificate released. Johnson, a former CIA agent, claims Obama was never named "Barack" and his actual birth certificate records show his adopted last name, "Soetoro". His given birth name according to Johnson was "Barry." Johnson also claims the original birth certificate listed Obama's race as "white." "Obama may have wanted that suppressed for a host of reasons: issues about his citizenship, questions about his name (it’s been claimed that Obama represented in his application to the Illinois bar that he had never been known by any name other than Barack Obama), and the undermining of his (false) claim of remoteness from Islam," McCarthy comments. "Is that true? I don’t know and neither do you," he writes.

Either way, people. It’s NOT about the ‘birth certificate’. It’s about his lack of ‘truthfulness’ and ‘transparency’. Not only is his eligibility requirement in question.....but the REST of his records. I think this needs to be QUESTIONED MORE!!!!!!

I want to see his COLLEGE RECORDS.

Johnson also claims the original birth certificate listed Obama's race as "white."

Ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha. That alone would be enough reason (for the Dems) to keep it hidden. Talk about an Oreo.....

"In theory, that could raise a question about whether he qualifies as a 'natural born' American--an uncharted constitutional concept," he notes.

In theory? There is no "In Theory" about it. Read the friggin' Constitution, that is if you know how to read.

It’s a head fake. The real bottom line issue is that O’s father was not a U. S. citizen, therefore, he cannot be a natural born citizen.

It actually very simple. If he doesn’t have anything to hide why doesn’t he release the thing and settle the matter? While he is at it, he might also release his university records. That, of course, is if he has nothing to hide.

Well, what do you expect from trust fund, frat house Romney supporters, sharp thinking?

They don’t like birthers for the same reason they don’t like Palin. They are elitist snobs and feel threatened that the unwashed are out and about on their own and less and less listening to the country club mafia.

There may be perfectly benign answers to all of this. But the real question is: Why don’t the media — the watchdog legions who trekked to Sarah Palin’s Alaska hometown to scour for every kernel of gossip, and who were so desperate for Bush dirt that they ran with palpably forged military records — want to dig into Obama’s background?

In-freaking-deed.

It just keeps getting murkier and murkier.

But the logic of those digging gets clearer and clearer.

Was Obama adopted by Indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro?

This could be the reason 0bama doesn’t want the long form birth certificate released. If he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and given the legal name Barry Soetoro, he would have had to LEGALLY change it to Barack Obama in order to place that name on a ballot.

If he placed the name Barack Obama on a ballot while still legally known as Barry Soetoro it would disqualify him. It might even be a felony.

In theory? There is no "In Theory" about it. Read the friggin' Constitution, that is if you know how to read.

I have to laugh at all these labels like conspiracy 'theory'...and the words in 'theory'.

IT'S A FACT that hussein has not released his longform Birth Certificate and MOST of his RECORDS. The dimbulb smear merchants in the State run media don't give a damn.

Well, kinda sorta in theory. While the Constitution calls out natural born, there’s no real definition in law. Current U.S. law confers “citizen at birth” status to many categories of people, including Obama. Some say that is the same as “natural born”; others say it isn’t. What is needed is a clear-cut SCOTUS ruling that everyone can understand and apply.

When the outside observer considers the reasons why BHO won’t release his original long form birth certificate, they always suggest that there might be an embarrassing reason (he’s white, he’s Soetoro, etc.) that’s irrelevant to the issue of his eligibility. And, in isolation, that might explain his unwillingness to reveal the document.

However, combined with the secrecy of his personal records, dating all the way back to his Kindergarten records (which are mysteriously missing) through to his attorney client records, it stinks something awful. No one needs to be that secretive about their past, UNLESS they are hiding something. And that is the true issue here. Why is he hiding EVERYTHING?

Some say that is the same as “natural born”; others say it isn’t. What is needed is a clear-cut SCOTUS ruling that everyone can understand and apply. Hoot, I demand that you stop using common sense when posting to a "birther" thread. The only way to get SCOTUS involved is to get a good case before it, otherwise, they have no "standing." The court cannot rule otherwise.

The way to get a good case is for a state, any state, to pass a law demanding proof of eligibility before a Presidential wannabe gets on the state ballot, or gets the state's Electoral College votes.

I have long felt that he could be hiding something related not to eligibility but electability. For ex, let’s say the complete birth records show he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro (which seems more likely than not). It’s my understanding this would mean that he had and may still hold Indonesian citizenship.

I am skeptical than anyone could be elected president of the U.S. if voters knew that he held or still holds citizenship in the largest Muslim country in the world. Thus, it seems perfectly plausible to me that he was born in HI but is hiding something that he felt would hurt his standing as a politician.

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