Obama Birth Certificate: Lies Are Starting To Contradict Themselves

www.notanotherconspiracy.com ^ | 7/26/2009 | Erin

[AdamBomb]

[snip] "Now, how can the DOH in Hawaii say she personally saw and handled Obama’s original birth certificate IF IT WAS DESTROYED IN 2001?! Why in the hell do you destroy original birth certificates anyways? This suggests corruption at the highest levels of our Federal and State governments. It means that Hawaii flat-out LIED about the original birth certificate being in Hawaii. Wonder who gave the order? Even if birth certificates are computerized, the originals still normally exist in archives.[snip]

[Gabz]

So you have no problem that this man has spent untold amounts of money to NOT produce simple documents?

I know he’s not “legally” required to produce anything, other than his sworn statement, yet (nearly)everyone else does it or has done it. What is it that he is hiding?

What is he hiding?

He lies at the drop of a hat, and the fact he dos that when it is not necessary does not speak well for him, does it? It also calls into question his “swearing” about anything, doesn’t it?

Why is he hiding his records?

Does the fact he is prohibiting the opening of so many of his records not cause you pause? Have you never wondered why?

[TheBigIf]

You are really starting to sound like an idiot. What doe being black have to do wit anything? Or a person’s height?

I am talking about the rule of law under the United States Constitution and you are talking nonsense.

There is no precedent that has been set in regards to Obama’s non-American parent. Period. Get it?

[MHGinTN]

Why do you keep trying to promote this lie? ... “It was reported on the news that the State of Hawaii converted over to a digital system in 2001 and destroyed all the paper ...” I defy you to prove the word destroy is even in the statement from Hawaii. You keep trying to float that lie for a reason. Want to share it with us?

[El Gato]

You never hear from anyone who roomed with him in college or knew him in high school.

Actually one of his college roomates has been appointed Ambasador to Belize.

Vinai Thummalapally – an Indian American businessman from Colorado Springs and he and President Obama go way back. How far back? Well their friendship goes back to the summer of 1980 when they were roommates at Occidental College in Los Angeles.

Although their association was not just in college, it's been ongoing, and I'll bet one might have trouble verifying Vinai's status at Occidental. I wonder if he's the typical "Hindu Indian" or the one of the still numerous "Muslim" Indians? A little search "Hyderabad India Muslims" shows that the place still to this day has lots of Muslims, and before partition, Hyderabad was primarily Urdu-speaking Muslim until the Independence of India. A Pakistani site indicates that:

Obama’s freshman roommates at Occidental College included Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who is now a Boston banker and Vinai Thummalapally from Hyderabad, India. Other friends, Mohammed Hasan Chandeo and Wahid Hamid, both wealthy Pakistanis, have refused to talk to the media.

There's a pair of twins that he went to elementary and high school with who pop up now and again. The problem them is that they were supposedly born on the same day in the same hospital, but their birth announcement did not appear in the images of the newspapers, with Barry's. Their mother does not remember Stanley Ann being in the hospital, nor that little black baby in the nursery, the one with the funny name and the white mother.

[Star Traveler]

That’s the difference between discarded and stored... they didn’t store them, they discarded them — which, by the way, was the “thrust” of the story, in that the “paper copy” — no longer existed. A whole bunch of people got “whacked out” that the original *no longer existed* — but they didn’t understand about converting over to a digital system.

So, the destroying of the paper doesn’t make any difference because they don’t destroy paper until they digitize it... :-)

[MHGinTN]

What makes you think they didn’t find it all out? But ask yourself, how many black votes would the Rodham Rodent gotten in the primaries if she ahd disqualified the black people’s affrimative action messiah on the technical grounds of not meeting Constitutional eligibility? And ask yourself how many democrats without more than a sprinkling of black votes would be sitting in Senate and House seats right now had she outed the lying bastard and taken the primary from him?

[Star Traveler]

The point is that only three qualifications matter to this issue...

(1) natural born citizen
(2) 35 or older
(3) resident for 14 years

And Obama swears and affirms that he is a “natural born citizen”, that he is 35 or older, and that he’s been a resident for 14 years or more.

Hence... by the same methodology that all other candidates qualify... he’s qualified....

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Now..., on the other hand, if someone doesn’t believe that’s true — all they have to do is present some proof and have him prosecuted... :-)

[Star Traveler]

You said — I know he’s not “legally” required to produce anything, other than his sworn statement, yet (nearly)everyone else does it or has done it. What is it that he is hiding?

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I have no idea what he’s hiding, and neither does anyone else... and I’ve said that plenty of times, even long before the election. He could be hiding his “unknown daddy” or he could be hiding that Malcolm X is his daddy, or who knows what else, in addition to what some posters think he’s hiding.

If you want to get a candidates birth certificate, you’re going to have to get a law enacted by the states in order to legally require a candidate to produce his birth certificate or else he will not be on the state’s ballot... That’s how you do it...

[cynwoody]

When I made the statement that no one could remember him from school on a previous thread, I was flamed by a poster and told to google the subject and I would not look so foolish as there were many individuals listed that knew him, but I never did.

http://www.calgold.com/calgold/Default.asp?Series=10000&Show=1024

I found that while checking on a birfer concoction that Obama enrolled in Occidental as a foreign student from Indonesia in order to scam some scholarship money. I wondered whether he was there as the Indonesian Barry Soetoro or as the American Barack "Barry" Obama. Um, turns out it was the latter.

[El Gato]

But, since I was just dropping it off, I just went in and put it in a box. It is a handy way to vote...

Even handier is "early voting". You go to a limited number of polling places, set up just like the ones in the precints will be on election day, and vote, generally about two weeks prior to the election, but ending a few days before the actual election day. Generally pretty fast. I've done that the last two Presidential elections, the Congressional elections in between as well, plus some local elections. If your county uses machines, you use machines, it they use "mark sense" you use "mark sense", and if they use butterfly ballots with punch cards, you use those during early voting.

But the point is that each state is different. Some may not require the canidate to certify eligibility, especially in the primary, others may have the party certify the eligibility of their nominee. Others may, for all I know, do neither.

[Star Traveler]

The place where that document came from was a site that said it had been getting documents from all the states. So, perhaps they’ve collected them all by now. That’s a research project...

But, the fact remains that if one swears it in one place, it’s just as good as swearing it in 50 places. Doing it in 50 places makes it a *whole lot worse* though, if you’re lying... :-)

[MHGinTN]

You still have not proven your lie. Discarded can be used to characterize how a thing is done, as in no longer going tot he stroed paper, having discarded that method, and gone to accessing the stored digital imagery of the archived paper. You seem to forget that one of sinkEmperor clinton’s minions went into paper archives to remove and perhaps plant paper. Why do you continue to float these lies, then try to back peddle from your deceit by offering more shuck and jive?

[El Gato]

And if someone’s sworn statement is false, then that candidate can be prosecuted right then, and they would be.

If the statement was known to be false, maybe. But generally it's pro forma, I doubt any clerk in any state even thought about checking it for truthfulness.

[MHGinTN]

By the way, concerning your faux aimed tagline, have you figured out whom in the bible story was the Good Samritan, or are you still tryting to spin your deceit into a silk purse?

[Star Traveler]

You said — If the statement was known to be false, maybe. But generally it’s pro forma, I doubt any clerk in any state even thought about checking it for truthfulness.

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You’re right, that a clerk is not going to do some research and launch an investigation. BUT... Presidential campaigns are cut-throat business... LOL..

Believe me... if anyone had “the goods” they would be doing that one in a heartbeat, even less... :-) Heck! I wouldn’t doubt that another campaign would pay some good money for “the goods” on an opponent.

AND..., even right this very moment... how much do you think “the goods” is worth, as we speak. Maybe a million, two million, ten million... someone could retire...

[El Gato]

So, the destroying of the paper doesn’t make any difference because they don’t destroy paper until they digitize it... :-

It's a lot easier to slip in a new digital file, especially one not signed at it's creation by the appropriate individuals, the parent, the doctor, the hospital registrar, etc., than it is to slip in a paper forgery, with the paper and ink, along with the signatures, being correct for the individuals signing, and the time period.

[TheBigIf]

Again thanks for pointing out how obvious it is that Obama has been lying and is a fraud.

Obama is NOT a natural born citizen but has committed fraud.

As I said before there is no precedent for this and the Court must get involved and make a ruling.

[Star Traveler]

Are we back on that Bible story again... LOL...

Bible stories... religious threads..
Obama birth certificate... yeah... we’re here... :-)

[Star Traveler]

Are you planning on doing it before Obama attends the opening of his Presidential Library... LOL..

[Star Traveler]

I didn’t think anyone knew who Obama was in 2001... LOL...

But, hey... you must be looking at movies like the Bourne Identity, or taking in the series “24” with Jack Bauer...

Sounds like plots from them... :-)