Palin, Hunter, DeMint, or Pence? Who should be the 2012 nominee?

PA Times | 7/21/09 | Pissant

[pissant]

I have racked my brain to try to figure out who else should be included on the list of figures that conservatives should support and encourage to run for the 2012 GOP nomination.

Pawlenty? Milquetoast

Mitt? RomneyCare flipflopper

Barbour? Sabotaged eminent domain reform

Jindal? Needs to start shaving first.

Huck? playing his cards right, but can he be trusted?

Newt? Sybil

Perry? Mandatory vaccinations, anyone?

Sanford? Stepped on his John Thomas

However, if Palin, Hunter, DeMint and Pence were to be the choices, then we will have forced the GOP beyond the RINOfest that was 2008, which resulted in the predictable outcome.

Hunter gets my full support if he runs. DeMint is next, then Pence & Palin.

However, it would behoove us to discourage any attempt by the GOP moneymen to force feed us another Rudy McRomney Happy Meal for 2012.

Will talk radio get out in front this time and actively promote the conservative candidates?

I still haven't tuned back in to Hannity after his relentless efforts to convince me that black is white last go 'round.

[GreenLanternCorps]

It's too early for conservatives to have a “pick”. All of the candidates listed have pluses and minuses.

-Pawlenty

Won in Minnesota / Not conservative enough?

-Romney

Good manager, better than Obama / RomneyCare not working out, JimRob hates him

-Barbour

Handled Katrina well / relatively unknown, comes off as a generic southerner

Huckabee

Great on social issues / Not a conservative on economics

-Gingrich

Great idea man / Hasn't won a political fight since 1995

-Jindal

Brutally competent, potentially the best candidate / poor performance on TV, needs image makeover

-Sanford

Are you kidding me? / Are you kidding me???

-Hunter

Strongly conservative / Duncan who? He got like three votes, you can't run for President from the House

-Pence

See Hunter, above

-Palin

A true star, if she bones up on issues outside her comfort zone / faces an image problem she MUST overcome

[SmokingJoe]

“I love Hunter”

I think Hunter really did best in all the debates last year,. I am still not sure why he just couldn't gain any traction with voters. I have my doubts as to whether he can do any better in 2012 than he did in 2008.
We will see I guess.

[ChessExpert]

It's a good list, I'm glad to see Mike Pence on the list.

I wouldn't rule out Newt. He has been very active and vocal in opposing recent excesses by the Democratic party.

I believe that he had a lot to do with the “drill here, drill now” drive and also with the tea parties. Can anyone tell me if this is so?

Also, I wouldn't rule out Jindal, especially for VP.

[Diogenesis]

Romney LOST, LOST, LOST.

Never had a chance.

Willard Brutus Romney cowardly attacked Gov. Palin and her children.
Mitt should be ostracized.

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Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House,
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin.
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
He's in charge on November 5th.'"
The Prowler added: "Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Romney supporters in the McCain campaign had access to internal polling which indicated well in advance of the November 4 election that McCain had no chance to win.
So they began working to position their man Mitt for a run in 2012. Just two days after the election,The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
These aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
Erick Erickson, who organized Operation Leper, said:
"Here’s what I think: I think there are some staffers on the McCain campaign who seriously screwed up the roll out of Sarah Palin, to which Governor Palin herself objected.
These staffers are now out trying to finish her off thinking, as typical D.C. types do, that if they don’t do it to her, she’ll do it to them. They just never understood who Palin is or what she is about."
"Likewise, I do think there are some staffers and others who expect Mitt Romney to run again in 2012,
they decided McCain could not win, and decided to undermine Sarah Palin and her chances hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."

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"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign? (Mark Wallace, Romney pimp)
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."

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Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney

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"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

[Popman]

When Palin has most of the money, no one is going to push her around.

That's going to be tough thing to happen. conservatives are about 30 % of the party. If the RNC back someone else, they will get the money

Just look what 0bama did to Hillary Clinton, on account of the vast amounts of money he raised.

Obama out raised Hillary for one reason and one reason only. Foreign contributions.

I would bet everything I own that the DNC never counted on Obama beating Hillary. Few people know the Obama campaign never used any DNC money to run their state by state offices, to keep Hillary/DNC spies out

[se_ohio_young_conservative]

really ? Her poll numbers are improving rapidly now

[Commander X]

Michelle Bachman/Jim DeMint

Now there’s a ticket!

[fanfan]

I think I’d have died an gone to heaven if these are the 4 choices left standing in 2012 after what transpired in 2008

What are the Republicans doing to prevent primary voting by democrats and moderates this time?

[pissant]

Nothing, of course. that is why we need to convince the 4 I mentioned to run, and the RINOs to stay out of the race.

[pissant]

True. There were some cordial exchanges. But that was drowned out by the calls to have me banned for life. LOL

[SmokingJoe]

“conservatives are about 30 % of the party.”

Conservatives make up over 30% of the entire country(there is a poll somewhere here on FR about it), so they are bound to be more than 30% of the Republican Party, no?

” If the RNC back someone else, they will get the money”

They won't get that money in the early stages of the first primaries. And the RNC have to spread out their money to hundreds of candidates for congress. And lots of cheesed of coinservatives are not gonna be giving any money to the RNC anyeways. I doubt if they are gonna be able to match a well financed, well run Palin machine. To me the most important thing about Palin resigning, is that she is going to be able to go flat out and very early, to start raising money, tons of money, to go against the 0bama cash machine in 2012. Its going to be a long hard tough fight, no mistake.

[fanfan]

convince.... the RINOs to stay out of the race.

Um, how?

[SmokingJoe]

Concise and to the point. Pretty much covers it.

[VocalObserver]

I’m surprised no one has mentioned Mitch Daniels, Governor of Indiana.

I filter out the non-executives. Daniels and Jindal are at the top. Contrast how they run their state to what Obama is doing.

All the congressmen split the conservative vote. I’m not interested in seeing anyone in 2012 that was running in 2008, for president.

[pissant]

By building the support for the conservatives early, and by convincing talkers like Hannity, Rush, Ingraham, to push them early. I was heartened to hear Glenn Beck slam RomneyCare yesterday.

[pissant]

Yeah, that was Mitt’s and Huck’s and Rudy’s and Gilmore’s and Tommy Thompson’s claim to fame. Executive experience.

So too did Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have it.

In other words, it means nothing.

[NathanR]

It means SOMETHING. Both carter and clinton became president.

Tell me how well Hunter did? His son won his seat, that is how well he did. (something, but not even close to the big prize.)

[SmokingJoe]

Carter and Clinton won didn't they, with Clinton winning twice, no?
As for Romney, I have little doubt he'd have done a heck of a lot better than McCain did against 0bama. Its really hard for me to even conceive of any candidate, doing worse than what McCain did. He was an awful candidate in every way.

[VocalObserver]

Those candidates would be filtered out in round 2!

You can’t compare Mitt/Huck/Ruday/Gilmore/Thompson to Daniels/Jindal

http://formitch.com/

[WorkingClassFilth]

Palin for President. Deconstruct the left and wipe out the RINOs.