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WHY CONSERVATISM SUCKS RIGHT NOW ["Some Freeper named Jim Robinson off the deep end!"]
Rightwing Nuthouse | 10:40 am | Rick Moran

Posted on 07/19/2009 10:34:15 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath

Edited on 07/19/2009 11:53:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

7/19/2009
WHY CONSERVATISM SUCKS RIGHT NOW
CATEGORY: Politics

Some Freeper named Jim Robinson has an off the deep end post up at Free Republic that illustrates in a nutshell why no one is taking conservatism very seriously these days.

You have to read the whole thing to grasp the underlying hysteria, the exaggeration, the misperceptions, and the paranoia, but a few choice passages should suffice.

It is entitled “If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?”

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

First, I could have lifted the exact same verbiage from any of 50 lefty blogs while Bush was in office. It was stupid then and it’s stupid now. Positing the idea that we are unfree or living under some kind of authoritarian regime is so far beyond the pale of rationality one wonders if this guy sits in the dark, cradling his gun, waiting for the secret police to bust down his door.

Gross exaggeration, hyperbolic, hysterical, paranoid, full of nonsensical statements that fly in the face of reality - and that’s just the second paragraph.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government’s long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

Oooh goody! A revolution. Can I play too?

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

I suppose Obama, Biden, the cabinet, 100 senators and 435 Congressmen are just going to take one look at that million crazies this guy wants to bring to Washington and turn over the government to…who? Who is going to appoint this “Provisional Chief Executive?” No doubt Mr. Robinson who, as the leader of this revolt of patriots, will also be responsible for “convincing” our elected leaders to leave town.

No matter. Just what kind of government does this new Founding Fool want to establish?

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended.

As it was originally intended? Well, that solves the Obama problem. Mr. Robinson can sell him into slavery.

We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

For an ignoramus, he actually got pretty close - to a third grade understanding of the Constitution. Perhaps defining “freedom and Liberty” might be a start so that we can figure out what’s “unalienable” in those vague concepts, as well as telling us how to “restore and reestablish” states rights and the “sovereignty” of the individual (which hasn’t gone anywhere as far as I can tell). But of course, that would require a mind not entranced with its own lunacy.

Then come the specifics: Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments, abolish the IRS (hooray!), transfer federal land, buildings, and military bases to control of the states, kill social security, get rid of abortion rights, the Fed,…

Well, you get the picture. He concludes with this ringing call for revolution:

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government’s ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.

Yes, every American has a right to make an utter, complete ass of himself. That right is protected by the Constitution as surely as the right to sit in the dark with a gun waiting for Obama’s goose stepping brownshirts to arrest patriots like Mr. Robinson is guaranteed by that document.

The problem with all of this isn’t that the guy is a loon whose understanding of what America is all about is that of a 6 year old. The problem is in the comments to this post, as well as comments I’ve seen on just about every big conservative blog out there that support and mimic these extraordinarily idiotic and laughably exaggerated claims of what the government has been doing since Obama took office and how these actions affect our personal liberty.

There will always be a certain portion of both the right and left who are basically nuts. The hysterically exaggerated dangers of a Bush putsch were written about endlessly by the left for 8 years. Now it’s time for righty crazies to crawl out from under the rocks and dark places where they’ve been hiding to make conservatism look like an ideal home for kooks, paranoids, and other unbalanced denizens who inhabit a creepy reality of their own making that bears little resemblance to the real world.

Conservatives will laugh this kind of thing off as an aberration. But I am telling my fellow righties that we ignore this crap to the detriment of the rest of us who oppose the administration’s actions. With pop-cons like Hannity, Beck, Coulter, and other conservative celebrities mouthing some of this nonsense (while implying even worse) on a daily basis, more and more of the base are turning into unhinged, screaming maniacs who believe America is being “destroyed” by Obama and the liberals.

This screed is symptomatic of the sickness of thought and reason that afflicts many conservatives today - more than we are prepared to acknowledge and far more than one would normally expect from a philosophy that supposedly prides itself on prudence, rationality, and probity.

You can dismiss Robinson and his unhinged followers. But they aren’t going away and their influence can only grow if we ignore them.

UPDATE

Ooooh my bad. Jim Robinson isn’t just any ordinary schmuck. He is founder of Freeperland.

If I were to seriously analyze Robinson’s thoughts in that post, I would say that anyone who advocated the kinds of changes he does would make Obama look like a piker in the “change” department. Robinson’s ideas are beyond radical — they are ill-informed, impossible, and reactionary.

How reactionary? Robinson posits a government that does not return us to our constitutional roots but rather to a pre-constitutional system not unlike the Articles of Confederation. Anyone who can’t see that in all of his state’s rights bullshit doesn’t know much about history.

Someone should wake Mr. Robinson up and inform him that we are a continental, 21st century industrialized nation of 300 million people and not an 18th century agrarian coastal republic of 7 million.

Not that it would make much difference to Robinson. We have to revolt to ban abortion and toss out social security and the IRS.



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To: Locomotive Breath

Perfect, just perfect. Conservatives/Republicans eating their own. Isn’t that what got us into this mess in the first place?


21 posted on 07/19/2009 10:47:03 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: Locomotive Breath

He did say something that I must defend and that I totally agree with.

I know, you’re probably thinking I’m nuts; well that’s another story.

Moran did say:

“Yes, every American has a right to make an utter, complete ass of himself.”

So true Moran . . . . so true!


22 posted on 07/19/2009 10:47:20 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (veritas odium parit)
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To: Locomotive Breath

"Duuuuuuuuh, my name is Mor-aaan!"

23 posted on 07/19/2009 10:47:29 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Sounds like Michael Savage talking. If he’s not on stage and in front, he won’t like it. He’s so much into himself, he can’t accept others opinions.


24 posted on 07/19/2009 10:47:40 AM PDT by RC2
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To: ChocChipCookie

This guy is no conservative he is a lib so use that phrase its not appropriate


25 posted on 07/19/2009 10:48:49 AM PDT by Three if by government
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To: RC2

Boortz does the same thing.


26 posted on 07/19/2009 10:50:12 AM PDT by taxtruth
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To: JPG

All glory to Jim Thompson!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5JW8XWX6oU


27 posted on 07/19/2009 10:50:38 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Locomotive Breath
WHY CONSERVATISM RICK MORAN SUCKS RIGHT NOW

Fixed it.

28 posted on 07/19/2009 10:50:42 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Three if by government

In the past I’ve read some pretty good things on his blog. This one leaves me almost speechless.


29 posted on 07/19/2009 10:50:48 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: pennboricua

Just need to replace the “a” with an “o” is all.


30 posted on 07/19/2009 10:51:32 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: ABQHispConservative
Jim Thompson is the guy running for President. He just anounced today. He has promised me all the beer I can drink as long as I keep my riding mower in the yard. When he is elected I won't have to ride it down the street to the corner store. I just have to call 711 and I get the first 3 cases delivered free.

Wadda Guy!

31 posted on 07/19/2009 10:51:52 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JPG; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; PhilDragoo; Jim Robinson
Who the hell is Jim Robinson? I only follow the dictates of Jim Thompson. Long may he rule!!

I'll set the record straight. Rob Thompson, has a brother, Jim, who is a second cousin to Tom Robinson, who ticked off some obamanaut on pmsnbc. Now the worshipper of Obamadinejihad, has confused Tommy's cousin JimRob, with Rob's brother in law, Bob Thompson, and quite frankly, I don't don't think anyone here has any idea who JimRobThom is anymore.

32 posted on 07/19/2009 10:52:53 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Locomotive Breath

I can’t figure it out. Is that a right wing site or a left wing site?


33 posted on 07/19/2009 10:52:54 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Locomotive Breath

Sometimes I think “opinionists” don’t bother to read the piece they are commenting on.

(Like I’ve never done that...)

The opinionist, before opinioning, should meditate for a moment on what a truly free country would look like, if it were free, and if it were made up of a truly free people, what would those people be like. You have to think for a moment what it means to be free, and how do you structure that.

What would it mean if the United States were to return to its constitutional basis.

And then think what would it take to get us there.

And once Moran has thought that through, he should write that piece, and I’ll read it.


34 posted on 07/19/2009 10:52:59 AM PDT by marron
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To: Locomotive Breath
>>>>>>WHY CONSERVATISM SUCKS RIGHT NOW

I think its better said, "Why Rick Moran SUCKS right now"

35 posted on 07/19/2009 10:53:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Locomotive Breath
From his self adulation exercise (i.e., his web page)....

Moran lives with the love of his life, Zsu Zsu, as well as three cats, Ebony, Snowball, and Aramas.

Poofter.......

36 posted on 07/19/2009 10:55:38 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ejonesie22

I can’t afford to drink it (I gave all of my money to the IRS and Franchise Tax Board) but I hear the Opus One is wonderful wine.


37 posted on 07/19/2009 10:56:19 AM PDT by rbbeachkid (The ONLY ones able to fix the economy - Small Business Owners!)
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To: Locomotive Breath
RE: Mr. Moran's comment about the Constitution's original intent:

As it was originally intended? Well, that solves the Obama problem. Mr. Robinson can sell him into slavery.

Cute. With that shoddy diatribe a goin' I knew Mr. Moran would stoop to The Race Card!

38 posted on 07/19/2009 10:57:30 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Three if by government

Rich Moran, the blinded wuss! So blinded that he actually prints this stuff - like saying ‘hey everybody - everything’s cool sit back and enjoy’. Straight from the liberal talking points, IMO. There are comfy cowards and there are leaders.

Leader for the American Way, God, family, country - Jim!


39 posted on 07/19/2009 10:57:49 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Locomotive Breath
Moran sounds like an Obama plant who is out to discredit conservatives.

He calls his site "rightwing nuthouse", writes an article with the words "conservatism sucks" and is going out of his way to tar all conservatives with the "paranoid" brush.

Those are all common memetic and neural linguistic programing techniques designed to discredit others by association.

40 posted on 07/19/2009 10:57:57 AM PDT by America2012 (No Taxation By An Obamanation)
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