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The sad decline of music: Cole Porter vs. The Beatles
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=767 ^ | William Briggs

Posted on 07/16/2009 7:11:34 AM PDT by mattstat

Paul McCartney has once again crept upon our shores. He was, of course, vanguard in the original “British Invasion”, which occurred in early 1964. Now, an invasion is something to be resisted, to be fought off, to be repelled. Sadly—quite, quite sadly—we had no Winston Churchill on our shores to boost our morale with stirring words like these:

'We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in New York, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Culture, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender";

and so the invasion was a success, our surrender quick, our cultural defeat total. All that is left is rebellion.

Here is the first of many examples of what appeasement and acquiescence has wrought. Try not to sit too close to your screen when reading the ride-hand column. There is a danger of, what they call on the professional eating circuit, a reversal...

(Excerpt) Read more at wmbriggs.com ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: beatles; coleporter; getoffmylawn; paulmccartnet
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To: SJSAMPLE

Cole Porter’s Night and Day is great. So was Sinatra and U2’s version.

Now let me get back to listening to Ice Tea singing Cop Killer.


21 posted on 07/16/2009 7:29:05 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: aruanan

“The decline of music started with opera and then accelerated with such crap as Le Sacre du Printemps,” he chanted.


22 posted on 07/16/2009 7:29:08 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: mattstat

You can actually sing along with a Beatle song. I’d like to see this guy sing along with what passes as music now without rupturing a vocal chord screaming or a brain cell trying to understand the words.


23 posted on 07/16/2009 7:30:35 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Dude, I’m 30. Cole Porter had wit and sublime lyrics. The Beatles were for kids with no taste. And not one of them could sing worth a darn. My wife cannot stand them.


24 posted on 07/16/2009 7:30:42 AM PDT by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: murron

IIRC, “Yesterday” was voted THE greates single of the 20th century. This was about 20 years ago.

Times change, things move forward (and backward) like the tides. I can accept that.

But, some old geezer posting about the “decline” of music because styles and considerations have changed is ridiculous.

Of course, if he was talking about “Hip Hop” ....

My father-in-law is a professional jazz/swing musician (trumpet) and I’ve been forced to go to old geezer concerts for the past 11 years. Some of it’s OK, but after a while, I start to long for an audience that isn’t using a walker or depends. But, that’s just me.


25 posted on 07/16/2009 7:31:44 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: mattstat
"And that's why birds do it, bees do it
Even educated fleas do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love

Cold Cape Cod clams, 'gainst their wish, do it
Even lazy jellyfish do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love." -Cole Porter

Yeah, his songs were so deep. One can cherry-pick songs and lyrics for comparison, but the fact is they all have the same thing in mind: put together a little ditty that will make listeners want to buy it for their own collection.

26 posted on 07/16/2009 7:32:07 AM PDT by theDentist (I AM JIM THOMPSON! qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

Nice catch.


27 posted on 07/16/2009 7:35:17 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Pay attention, now. Reading counts. I explained: I was born after the Beatles became famous. I am not a geezer, not yet.

I notice that you have not yet attempted to contrast the lyrics from the two songs. I await your analysis.


28 posted on 07/16/2009 7:35:42 AM PDT by mattstat (http://wmbriggs.com)
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To: Ev Reeman

It takes 10, 20, or even 50 years before the really good music from an era resolves itself from the steaming pile of crap that is “contemporary” music of it’s time.

If we went back to the 1930’s and listened to a popular radio station, we would recognize several songs through the day, but most of the music would be unfamiliar to us as it did not withstand the test of time.


29 posted on 07/16/2009 7:36:02 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: mattstat

“In My Life” by The Beatles is one of the most beautiful songs ever written. period.


30 posted on 07/16/2009 7:36:41 AM PDT by frogjerk (C-NJ)
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To: theDentist

Nothing deep about “Let’s Fall in Love”, nor was there meant to be. It’s a clever, witty tune. By design. Let’s compare this Porter tune to the cleverest Beatles song you can recall for a fair comparison.


31 posted on 07/16/2009 7:37:27 AM PDT by mattstat (http://wmbriggs.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I am a lifelong record collector of many genres of music and have recordings going back over 100 years. Every generation adapts its own style of music, to the horror of their parents and the derision of their children. I think at least 90% of most music is schlock that deserves to be forgotten. However, some modern forms of noise in the last 30 years are so far removed from musicality that all of it should be forgotten.


32 posted on 07/16/2009 7:38:36 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (BLOAT - Buy lots of ammo today)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
but most of the music would be unfamiliar to us as it did not withstand the test of time.

This is one of the tests that The Beatles pass with flying colors

33 posted on 07/16/2009 7:39:36 AM PDT by frogjerk (C-NJ)
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To: mattstat

That’s exactly my point. The author cherry picked the songs for his comparison.


34 posted on 07/16/2009 7:41:54 AM PDT by theDentist (I AM JIM THOMPSON! qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: mattstat

Why would I attempt to contrast the lyrics between the two?
That’s YOUR premise.

As I’ve already said, different generations, different tastes. The lyrics from the two songs aren’t even marginally similar in content and subject.

Another poster has already posted the simplistic (hardly “sublime”) lyrics from another Porter song, refuting the basic premise of “The Sad Decline of Music”.

It’s the equivalent of standing on the corner and raising your fist at those “new-fangled automobiles.”

The fact that you’re that young (I’m 44) and still engage in such futile comparisons belies your age.


35 posted on 07/16/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: mattstat

There has been no decline in music. The decline is in the delivery system. “Modern Rock” radio plays AC/DC all day long. That band is 30 years old!

If you take a look at the 20 biggest tours of this summer, 18 of those are headlined by acts whose careers started over 20 years ago. All of whom were exposed to the population by a new thing called MTV in the 80’s.

To be honest, corporate owned radio is too risk averse to fulfill the role they once provided.


36 posted on 07/16/2009 7:43:17 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: mattstat

I’ve just seen a face
I can’t forget the time or place
Where we first met
She’s just the girl for me
And I want all the world to see
We’ve met

Had it been another day
I might have looked the other way
And I would have never been aware
But as it is I’ll dream of her tonight

Falling, yes I am falling
And she keeps calling me back again

I have never known the likes of this
I have been alone and I have missed things
And kept out of sight
But other girls were never quite like this

Falling, yes I am falling
And she keeps calling me back again


The lyrical flow and fast rhythm changes in this song make it my favorite Beatles song for it’s feeling of joy at love at first sight and it’s clever matching of the music to the subject matter.


37 posted on 07/16/2009 7:44:21 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: mattstat
"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching."
--Attributed to an Assyrian stone tablet, c. 2800 BCE
38 posted on 07/16/2009 7:48:26 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

If any distractors to the Beatles haven’t seen the Beatles “ Love “ Circe de Soliel in Vegas , they should STFU!


39 posted on 07/16/2009 7:51:57 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: SJSAMPLE

If any distractors to the Beatles haven’t seen the Beatles “ Love “ Cirque du Soleil in Vegas , they should STFU!


40 posted on 07/16/2009 7:53:02 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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